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Ah, Beryl...
You are in for a ride!

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Post Re: 174-175: Got milk?
As I already said in Discord

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Eyebrows lowered, slight vertical furrow over her nose, downturned corners of her mouth... Yup, I'd say Beryl's slightly ticked off. (in the last panel)


She was rather quick shifting from shocked that humans seem to have some rather wierd kinks (by Loroi standards) to 'slightly ticked off' that he seems to intend to try said kinks on someone else, rather than her....


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Post Re: 174-175: Got milk?
But now we know the Loroi don't use all animal-products for nutrients.
Or, depending on planet, they simply don't have the fauna for "milk".

Maybe Tempo will jump in, telling them that he likely means the milk of some form of cattle.
Referencing the "weird" food they eat on her planet.

But I'm more astonished, that Alex knew the word for "product of lactating breastfeeding animal" in standard.
It would not be among the words I would consider as "likely to be used at all".

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Post Re: 174-175: Got milk?
Perhaps the Soia-Liron races are lactose intolerant and have to use soya-based substitutes?

...I'll show myself out.


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Last three panels are gold. I laughed.

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Question: Would Loroi have Blue Milk?


Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:28 am
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Does this mean none of the alien species known to the Loroi use dairy products, except for offspring in the suckling stage?

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Post Re: 174-175: Got milk?
A galaxy of nations without cheese?
It would seem humanity's mission has been defined.

Also, these human males are even more lightweight and lusty than loroi ones. One small sip of narcotics and he's already pawing at their chests? It's going to be a long wait for rescue.


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Post Re: 174-175: Got milk?
Bwahahahaha! Oh God's ...my sides! Yup, Beryl is a scream! :lol:


Loroi would completely miss the joke ~ "Blessed are the Cheese makers for they will...", 'Does he mean only cheese makers or all dairy product makers?'

- Damn, no milk, cheese, butter, or ice cream! Truly a Universe of Unbelievers!

What was the VERY first thing 'John Criton' of FARSCAPE craved when he got back to Earth? MILK! "...It does a body good!"

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Post Re: 174-175: Got milk?
boldilocks wrote:
A galaxy of nations without cheese?
It would seem humanity's mission has been defined.


We need the best man for the job.

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Post Re: 174-175: Got milk?
I've got to say Beryl's blush looks weird. It looks like she just has some of those glare-reducing face markings you see on American football players rather than an actual blush. I think it's a combination of being too small of an area darkening, not quite the right area darkening, and the hard edges of the blush.

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...she just wants to be 'milked' as well! lol!

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Post Re: 174-175: Got milk?
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I've got to say Beryl's blush looks weird. It looks like she just has some of those glare-reducing face markings you see on American football players rather than an actual blush. I think it's a combination of being too small of an area darkening, not quite the right area darkening, and the hard edges of the blush.


I am of the opinion that Arioch got frustrated trying to get it just right and said 'Fuck it, I am posting it and going to sleep; will fix it after!'

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Post Re: 174-175: Got milk?
She is an alien, after all, so maybe the flushing in their faces happens differently than with us baseline Humans?

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Post Re: 174-175: Got milk?
The horror when they realize how the dairy industry works.


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Post Re: 174-175: Got milk?
Krulle wrote:
She is an alien, after all, so maybe the flushing in their faces happens differently than with us baseline Humans?

Now you're just talking crazy. /s But I'm curious, they might even not experience osteoporosis... or Cap'n Jardin is going to be known as the great savior of Loroi bones.


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Post Re: 174-175: Got milk?
If Alex doesn't get nicknamed Milkman I'm going to be wholeheartedly disappointed. :lol:


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Post Re: 174-175: Got milk?
I wonder if adult Loroi would be lactose intolerant, assuming similar "chemical" composition for milk.


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Post Re: 174-175: Got milk?
Losing the ability to digest lactose in adulthood seems like a pretty random "adaptation." I would be curious to know whether this is common in other mammals as well... but I would be surprised if there is a lot of data on this.

A quick search suggests that both dogs and cats can also be lactose intolerant as adults, so it may be that there's a specific advantage to losing this ability, or perhaps it's just a common quirk to mammalian biochemistry.

Loroi digestive systems are extremely hardy, so I doubt that something like lactose would cause them any distress, even if they couldn't metabolize it.

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Post Re: 174-175: Got milk?
Arioch wrote:
Losing the ability to digest lactose in adulthood seems like a pretty random "adaptation." I would be curious to know whether this is common in other mammals as well... but I would be surprised if there is a lot of data on this.


The mutation as far as i know is the genetic allele for lactase persistence( the enzyme that digests lactose) which is really random except northern Europe where it's like 90% present in the population. losing the ability isn't such a weird adaptation either it costs energy to maintain enzyme levels and there wouldn't be a lot of milk around after we were weaned. Consider for the significant portion of our evolution cows and goats were not the diary producing monsters we have selectively bred them for. So no selective pressure to maintain the ability.

And a quick look around in the abstracts of some studies seems to claim it gets down regulated in most mammals. Cats and dogs are always iffy in studies not only because people don't like testing on them but also because our selective breeding on them specifically related to keeping juvenile behaviour which may have had a lot of unforeseen consequences.


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Post Re: 174-175: Got milk?
I was thinking also that consuming Loroi breastmilk could be potentially dangerous for a human. The human body sometimes has strange reactions to "unknown" proteins. Anaphylactic shock anyone? Then again, it could prove to be completely harmless.


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Post Re: 174-175: Got milk?
Call me stupid, but the practice of wet-nursing suggests any mammalian female can be induced/stimulated to lactate... or how does that work really? Not needed anymore in our society of cause with the milk-monsters we have bred cows to be, but wet-nurses were not pregnant or even necessarily recently previously pregnant so can loroi simulate that same human ability to produce milk on need?!?

Technically, can't human males also produce very small amount of milk?

All silliness aside here...

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Post Re: 174-175: Got milk?
sunphoenix wrote:
Call me stupid, but the practice of wet-nursing suggests any mammalian female can be induced/stimulated to lactate... or how does that work really? Not needed anymore in our society of cause with the milk-monsters we have bred cows to be, but wet-nurses were not pregnant or even necessarily recently previously pregnant so can loroi simulate that same human ability to produce milk on need?!?

Technically, can't human males also produce very small amount of milk?

All silliness aside here...


Human lactation is triggered in two ways:
1) With pregnancy.
2) With regular breast suckling which induces a neural reaction.

That's an interesting evolutionary adaptation when one thinks about it; a proof of sorts that tribal/familial loyalty was so widespread and persistent for an extended period of our history for women to have evolved the ability to trigger lactation for infants that need it even if they are not theirs.
Cows don't have this reflex, they need to have been pregnant to trigger lactation and we have been breeding them for millennia for this single purpose.
Ain't evolution great?

EDIT: Of all the mammals only humans and several primates have been observed to have this ability.

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Post Re: 174-175: Got milk?
Is this where blue milk comes from in Star Wars? :lol:


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I have no photoshop skills, but a Beryl-shocked-face version of the old school Got Milk? ads would be perfect.

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hi hi

Perrein cuisine, eat your heart out! :lol:

It is a little surprising that Alex knew the word for milk, coming strictly from non-loroi version of trade language. I'm betting that this will be a good segue into an explanation that humans did, in fact, evolve on their own planet with a wide variety of animals that have similar characteristics.

Unlike the Loroi, who if I'm not mistaken, don't really have beasts of burden. I'm not sure if the Loroi have any livestock or not, but given the eclectic nature of Soia-liron biology, even if they do have livestock there's no guarantee that it was based on a template anything like the Loroi.


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