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ShadowDragon8685 wrote: I was figuring that energy deposit alone would be pretty heavy, but I was wondering what kind of fuzz-factor the quantum loom would cause.

Either way, it's definitely a WMD, and if you have time and fuel but not much in the way of projectiles, or just have a bunch of WLDs, it's a viable option for glassing a planet?
It is much more practical, than just drop to the planet a couple of tons of antimatter - will do the rest banal physics. WLD is more of an cannon, ie, assumes "point"-effect on relatively small target (even if the "point" in absolute scale measured in kilometers), but for effective bombardment of something of a planet size for cannon needed or a high rate of fire (which is not), or a huge area of direct damage (which also no).

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Do the Loroi have/have developed bicycles/motorbikes/jetbikes? They never had riding beasts the way we had horses (at least, no Loroi on any of the planets we're familiar with have had,) so the riding posture wouldn't have been ingrained into them. Would they still have developed two-wheeled transportation, or did they go straight to the motor car?

Actually, without riding animals, they probably wouldn't have had beasts of burden, either. At least, nothing bigger than a sled dog or something, not great for farming. Would they have had pulled carriages during their early technological equivalents, or would they have been hampered by everything basically being moved by Loroi?

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Hopefully jetbikes. :3
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Thanks, ShadowDragon. Now I have this picture in my mind: the Terminator movie with Fireblade instead of Mr Schwarzenegger. 8-)
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Carl Miller wrote:Hopefully jetbikes. :3
I'd presume that jetbikes were invented after motorbikes, which were invented after bicycles, which were invented after velocipedes.

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ShadowDragon8685 wrote:Do the Loroi have/have developed bicycles/motorbikes/jetbikes? They never had riding beasts the way we had horses (at least, no Loroi on any of the planets we're familiar with have had,) so the riding posture wouldn't have been ingrained into them. Would they still have developed two-wheeled transportation, or did they go straight to the motor car?

Actually, without riding animals, they probably wouldn't have had beasts of burden, either. At least, nothing bigger than a sled dog or something, not great for farming. Would they have had pulled carriages during their early technological equivalents, or would they have been hampered by everything basically being moved by Loroi?
Teidar powered carriages? :mrgreen: Got to use that telekinesis for something useful...

Joke aside, a lot stuff can be done differently if you have access to people that can essentially use magic. Remember that these powers do not use a finite mana supply like in some roleplaying games, they essentially just open a valve and keep it open as long as they concentrate on it.

The "Cydonia Rising" forum rpg includes an adapted railgun that got it's feed through electrokinesis. You have even let Jarding meet the very teidar that use this weapon!

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Sweforce wrote:Teidar powered carriages? :mrgreen: Got to use that telekinesis for something useful...

Joke aside, a lot stuff can be done differently if you have access to people that can essentially use magic. Remember that these powers do not use a finite mana supply like in some roleplaying games, they essentially just open a valve and keep it open as long as they concentrate on it.

The "Cydonia Rising" forum rpg includes an adapted railgun that got it's feed through electrokinesis. You have even let Jardin meet the very teidar that use this weapon!
Yes, but I'm ignoring that bit, because electrokinesis is a GURPSism that has no place in the psychokinetic powers of the Loroi according to Arioch. Anyway, I would expect that Unsheathed, even before the rediscovery of psionic amplifiers, were far too rare to expend on such a trivial task, especially as they would certainly be Warriors in and of themselves, and object (violently) to any such demand on their time and service.

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ShadowDragon8685 wrote:Do the Loroi have/have developed bicycles/motorbikes/jetbikes?
Someone must have invented one at some point, but I don't imagine them being very popular.
ShadowDragon8685 wrote:Actually, without riding animals, they probably wouldn't have had beasts of burden, either. At least, nothing bigger than a sled dog or something, not great for farming. Would they have had pulled carriages during their early technological equivalents, or would they have been hampered by everything basically being moved by Loroi?
Lack of suitable riding/burden animals had a significant impact on early Loroi development; everything had to be powered by Loroi "manpower" and the only travel was on foot or by boat. Loroi had to use manual farming techniques; fortunately, the Soia-Liron crops require a lot less labor than most Earth crops.

And no, telekinetic Loroi were not a suitable artificial power source. They were the most powerful warriors in a warrior society that despised civilian work; knights and lords are not available for hire as porters by the commoners.

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Arioch wrote:Someone must have invented one at some point, but I don't imagine them being very popular.
There's always gonna be some adrenaline junkie who loves the damn things though, right? Just like there's always gonna be some adventurer who just has to climb every mountain and ford every river.

Can the Unsheathed use their telekinesis for personal mobility? Because now I'm imagining the kind of absolutely insane stunts that a freerunning telekinetic with enough power to significantly alter their trajectory/add momentum to a leap could do. Double-jumping could be possible in theory, if they could create a solid "plate" of force to leap off of.
Arioch wrote:Lack of suitable riding/burden animals had a significant impact on early Loroi development; everything had to be powered by Loroi "manpower" and the only travel was on foot or by boat. Loroi had to use manual farming techniques; fortunately, the Soia-Liron crops require a lot less labor than most Earth crops.
Seems like the Loroi got to miss out on an awful lot of concepts because of the lack of animals suitable for domestication. I guess that's the downside to populating a young planet with genetically engineered superorganisms; they massively outcompete the native life and prevent most opportunities for evolutionary iteration.

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ShadowDragon8685 wrote:Can the Unsheathed use their telekinesis for personal mobility? Because now I'm imagining the kind of absolutely insane stunts that a freerunning telekinetic with enough power to significantly alter their trajectory/add momentum to a leap could do. Double-jumping could be possible in theory, if they could create a solid "plate" of force to leap off of.
A psychokinetic Loroi with sufficient power can perform Jedi-like physical stunts, but this doesn't really add to long-distance travel speed. A PK with enough power to lift her own body can levitate for short distances, but telekinesis requires concentration; this is effectively "free" in a tactical situation, but maintaining concentration for long periods of time would be mentally fatiguing.

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Are we going to know what happened after Alex was thrown back in the brig after the battle he witnessed? The Loroi fleet was about to face of a much larger Umiak force, but it doesn't seem like anything happened once they destroyed the remains of the Bellarmine?

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cacambo43 wrote:Are we going to know what happened after Alex was thrown back in the brig after the battle he witnessed? The Loroi fleet was about to face of a much larger Umiak force, but it doesn't seem like anything happened once they destroyed the remains of the Bellarmine?
They retreated, which is why they are now back in friendly territory.

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Arioch wrote:
cacambo43 wrote:Are we going to know what happened after Alex was thrown back in the brig after the battle he witnessed? The Loroi fleet was about to face of a much larger Umiak force, but it doesn't seem like anything happened once they destroyed the remains of the Bellarmine?
They retreated, which is why they are now back in friendly territory.
I thought that might be it, but it wasn't really said (and I sometimes miss implications by a mile). Thanks for clearing that up.

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cacambo43 wrote:
Arioch wrote:
cacambo43 wrote:Are we going to know what happened after Alex was thrown back in the brig after the battle he witnessed? The Loroi fleet was about to face of a much larger Umiak force, but it doesn't seem like anything happened once they destroyed the remains of the Bellarmine?
They retreated, which is why they are now back in friendly territory.
I thought that might be it, but it wasn't really said (and I sometimes miss implications by a mile). Thanks for clearing that up.

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They didn't really have a choice. They stayed a bit only to investigate the Bellarmine wreck. In effect, it was Alex emergency signal that spelled doom for the crew of the Wintertide and probably many on the Thunderbolt as well. The 51th are meant for hit an run tactics, not static defence. One can suspect that the fleets that receive what is left of the attrition fleets are more robust. Once the interdiction units been at their work the Umiak assaults will hopefully be weakened with few missiles left. That mean they can be hammered mercilessly as soon as they comes into pulse cannon range. Keep retreating when you do it and and they will pretty much never be able to come in range to use their own weapons. I suspect that the Loroi prefer to use kiting tactics against an Umiak force with their missiles dried up. Never let them come in range.

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Do the Loroi have dairy critters, make cheeses/milks/yogurts/etc?

Also, sandwich technology, do the blue spess elves have it, or is this something else humans can tech trade? [/tongueInCheek]

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ShadowDragon8685 wrote:Do the Loroi have dairy critters, make cheeses/milks/yogurts/etc?

Also, sandwich technology, do the blue spess elves have it, or is this something else humans can tech trade? [/tongueInCheek]
Cheese, yogurt and all other dairy products made from milk, oddly enough. Here I do not remember whether Deinar Miros give milk, but meat is accurately. It seems not.

The idea of a sandwich is clearly not require a doctorate, so as Loroi obviously have all the components such as: bread (or its analogues), meat (optional), some edible plants - I would say that for ~ 4000 years at least to someone it had to come up with the idea to eat it all together, rather than individually. Even for such "creative" guys like Loroi is too long to be :D

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Some Soia-liron livestock do give milk, but the Loroi haven't utilized them in the same way that humans have.

Can't say much more than this at present. ;)

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Arioch wrote:Some Soia-liron livestock do give milk, but the Loroi haven't utilized them in the same way that humans have.

Can't say much more than this at present. ;)
No milk or cheese? No yogurt, Greek or otherwise? No ice cream?!

I feel sorry for them; on the other hand, that's something else to augment the kitten-based bargaining position.


What about sandwiches? Surely they've invented sliced bread. Or pitas, tortillas, or sommat along those lines, right?

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ShadowDragon8685 wrote: No milk or cheese? No yogurt, Greek or otherwise? No ice cream?!

I feel sorry for them; on the other hand, that's something else to augment the kitten-based bargaining position.

Well, ice cream, in principle, can be done not only milk, but a whole class of products from milk for Loroi obviously unknown. On the other hand, I think that idea an eating frozen cocktail of various ingredients will seem at least a little strange for Loroi ;) Perhaps, many of them...

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No ice cream? :shock: We must equip ships for long range travel to deliver this war critical material to the heroines on the front lines! :P

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