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This is the sort of thing I am looking forward to, Loroi backstory. I especially want to hear Fireblades backstory.

Cultural exchanges are the most interesting things I like about first contact stories.


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Don't be fooled by the cheerful expressions... they're talking about death.


For death talk time, they are drawn rather sexy.


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Well, I saw those expressions and I thought... predatory. Like they’re describing something terrible they did to someone who might have deserved it.


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Don't be fooled by the cheerful expressions... they're talking about death. :D


Joyful talks, then.
I assume they're talking about how the diral lost its members one yb one since passing to sdulthood, all due to the war.

These kids d not know otherwise than death being part of their friends.

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"So anyway, there I was, strangling some local wildlife with one hand and stabbing its offspring with my other, when genius here decides 'hey, strangling them doesn't seem to be working; here, let me light them on fire' ..."


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I wonder if the standing (or sitting) next to each other is a traditional way that Loroi present a tale (give or take sanzai vs speech). From page 167, we see that Talon and Spiral are standing tight against each other. Then this WIP frame shows them sitting tight against each other.


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I wonder if the standing (or sitting) next to each other is a traditional way that Loroi present a tale (give or take sanzai vs speech). From page 167, we see that Talon and Spiral are standing tight against each other. Then this WIP frame shows them sitting tight against each other.

I guess that's the difference between two warriors who have been together their entire lives, more or less, and a bunch of warriors who have been tossed together to serve on the same ship but don't have that same sense of cameraderie.


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kiwi wrote:
I wonder if the standing (or sitting) next to each other is a traditional way that Loroi present a tale (give or take sanzai vs speech). From page 167, we see that Talon and Spiral are standing tight against each other. Then this WIP frame shows them sitting tight against each other.


I suspect that they meanwhile sat down & it got colder it the shuttle. It's the old 'tales at the fireplace'. I wonder whether Alex has any tale that might be equally impressive. Then again, the Loroi might not expect a male to tell such tales & might be used to be admired for their valor :mrgreen:


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The Insider states that touching increases the sanzai 'bandwidth' between two Loroi individuals.
But sofar it seems Talon and Spiral don't seem to touch the other's bare skin.

Would contact between two Loroi's hair be sufficient to have this increase awareness of one another?

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They probably know each other well enough to make it look like they are reading each other's mind in the most intimate level.

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The Insider states that touching increases the sanzai 'bandwidth' between two Loroi individuals.
But sofar it seems Talon and Spiral don't seem to touch the other's bare skin.

Would contact between two Loroi's hair be sufficient to have this increase awareness of one another?


That would explain Fireblade's hair despite the pressures of space combat.


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When I started to read that story several years ago, the FAQ said that story is outlined 7 chapters (of about 60 pages each) and 500 pages total.
Now it say 8 chapter (75 pages) and 600 pages total.

It's growing.

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As long as Arioch doesn't go full Martin all will be well.

Still though, I wonder if the increase is down to underestimation of size or if a late idea was good enough to alter part of the plot.

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When I started to read that story several years ago, the FAQ said that story is outlined 7 chapters (of about 60 pages each) and 500 pages total.
Now it say 8 chapter (75 pages) and 600 pages total.

It's growing.

It's not so much that the story is growing, but rather that the earlier estimate was a wild guess made at a time when I didn't have very much experience in knowing how many comic pages it takes to deliver a scene. The outline describes the whole story, but the actual script usually progresses just a bit ahead of the current page, and it's not broken down into comic pages. So, for example, even though we're getting near to the end of chapter 2, I couldn't tell you exactly how many pages that is. So the new estimate might be just as wrong.

The change in the number of planned chapters is because chapter 2 is way too long and had to be split into two chapters. So the second half of the action that was supposed to happen in chapter 2 will now be the new chapter 3. Exposition chews up the page count. :D

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Exposition chews up the page count. :D


Yup. But many of us enjoy the cultural aspects of speculative fiction, and ways that characters change and behave.

When I was younger, I was totally fine reading pulp sci fi where everything is driven by the demands of the Big Bad. Every part of their plots turned on ‘do or die,’ leaving little room for characters to choose things.

Then I read The Windup Girl by Paolo Bacigalupi and holy crap it was great. And it was great because the whole damn thing was driven by what the characters wanted, and what they knew, and what they chose.

So please take your time to show us the characters, and what they know, and what they desire. Lots of people really enjoy it.


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...I certainly do enjoy getting into the character's personalities and drives.

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So please take your time to show us the characters, and what they know, and what they desire. Lots of people really enjoy it.


Well, yes. But perhaps not TOO much time ;) :D

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As long as people complain & demand more comic pages or else, everything is fine. That's a sure sign of people actually liking a comic.

However, if people stop complaining, that's pretty bad. Chances are they don't care about the webcomic or are bored by the current storyline.


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Cheers!
Here's to the new year, and that it may bring you luck and may you stay healthy!



(I know it's a sealf-heating emergency ration pack, but the opportunity was too good to wish you all a great 2020)

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Krulle wrote:

Cheers!
Here's to the new year, and that it may bring you luck and may you stay healthy!



(I know it's a sealf-heating emergency ration pack, but the opportunity was too good to wish you all a great 2020)


I imagine he's again doing his smooth talking:

Alex: "Hey, it's not so bad! We have good food, are safe for once & there are lots of cute... blue skinned... well you get the drift."
Spiral: "No, I don't?"


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Did they save the rum rations?


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I guess there’s dialogue to go with it - Arioch has a knack for not giving the scene away - but I’m not sure what it is. So now I’m trying to come up with silly dialog to match the nervous smile...

Possible candidates:
  • ”There was a mixup at the factory once, and when I pull this tab we find out if it’s a normal ration or an explosive.”
  • ”Now we find out what you think of human food.”
  • ”Oh, this is not the best ration for a closed environmental system.”
  • ”And now I have to decide between death by starvation and curry with pineapple in it.”
  • EDIT: “And now I have to decide between death by starvation and curry without pineapple in it.”


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Hmm, I like it when there's pineapple in my curry.
Not that I'm a fan of curry itself....


*Anyone wants a try, to maybe get a feeling of what I went through the last days with your rations? Or maybe you even like our rations?*

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To start with, I was thinking the Loroi would be gagging all over the place, then I remembered that NASA and the airforce specially engineered rations that wouldn't funk out an enclosed space to much..

So I'm expecting curiosity mainly from the ladies!


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Krulle wrote:
Hmm, I like it when there's pineapple in my curry.


Pineapple in hot food is a contentious subject. My previous post has been modified to reflect this diversity of views :)


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