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Based on the last panel, are human flight-suits even less flexible than their EVA suits? (His suit seemed pretty inflexible by itself)


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Based on the last panel, are human flight-suits even less flexible than their EVA suits? (His suit seemed pretty inflexible by itself)


I'd assume that an EVA suit will generally be less flexible by default as it would be build to withstand a hard vacuum over long periods of time, whereas a flight suit is likely mostly made to dampen dynamic pressure (I remember page 105 mentioning a liquid breathing medium for those cases as well).

What i believe Alex is saying is that the Loroi suit resembles a flight suit (Which by nature would be less rigid than his own EVA suit), yet that even when considering this the material is remarkably light and flexible compared to a Terran flight suit. Which should not be a huge surprise as the Loroi are a more technically advanced race by quite a margin. Hell, just have a look at our own material science progress over the last century or even the last decade. There have been quite a few leaps in terms of what materials we can construct.


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Post Re: Page 152 Discussion: "Inventorying your equipment"
I'm curious as to where the breathing gear is and whether the outer layer of the suit is a snug fit to compensate for an absence of atmospheric pressure.

Also, I'd wager the Loroi are all redoubling their efforts to sense Alex's form through the wall at this very moment.

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Though it stands to question whether he distrusts the suit because it's alien underwear or one most probably not designed with male anatomy in mind... :)


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Wow, Alex looks a little bit soft sided doesn't he? I know having a body like Arnold Schwarzenegger is highly unrealistic, but that boy could do with some regular cardio exercises. And maybe do some lifting before he get's even softer :lol:


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Wow, Alex looks a little bit soft sided doesn't he? I know having a body like Arnold Schwarzenegger is highly unrealistic, but that boy could do with some regular cardio exercises. And maybe do some lifting before he get's even softer :lol:


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Post Re: Page 152 Discussion: "Inventorying your equipment"
Good point Zorg, Alex could use a little oil to help slide into that tight suite :twisted:


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Though it stands to question whether he distrusts the suit because it's alien underwear or one most probably not designed with male anatomy in mind... :)

And since we have the information ("Chekhov's gun") of the Suit working better if contacting the skin, we know where his skin damage will happen.
I wonder which of the Loroi will apply skin healing lotion while he is still unconscious from the sudden decompression....

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Post Re: Page 152 Discussion: "Inventorying your equipment"
I think that worst what that can happen is some discomfort.


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Post Re: Page 152 Discussion: "Inventorying your equipment"
Male 'equipment' should be as free as possible, overheating would be also an issue.

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Overheating is only an issue for longterm fertility. Unless Alex has to wear this kind of suit for years on end, there should be nothing more than some discomfort. Soft tissue such as the penis can be squashed quite remarkably, the pressure of some fabric is nothing to worry about. If these spacesuits are one-size fits anything between Beryl and Fireblade, Alex should fit acceptably.


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Post Re: Page 152 Discussion: "Inventorying your equipment"
It may not cause short term problems but it is certainly uncomfortable to be overheated down there.

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Post Re: Page 152 Discussion: "Inventorying your equipment"
Any man who experienced badly designed underwear or legwear with not enough ballroom would agree that it is highly uncomfortable to have his nuts squeezed. Even for a short amount of time.

Though, Alex keeping on his own undergarments wouldn't help with that particular issue. But... chafing might be another consideration.

I wonder whether Beryl will notice that when her attempts to calibrate the thermal balance seem to be thrown off a bit.

Beryl: "I noticed that the suits doesn't seem to work right in your nether regions."
Alex: "Uh..."
Beryl: "It's almost like ... Hmm. You did remove all of your garments before donning the suit, didn't you?"
Alex: "I admit, I didn't! Satisfied?"
Beryl: "We really have to talk about your taboos, and soon."


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Post Re: Page 152 Discussion: "Inventorying your equipment"
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Beryl: "We really have to talk about your taboos, and soon."


Beryl: "...preferably in my private quarters."

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Post Re: Page 152 Discussion: "Inventorying your equipment"
With a glass of *insert wine-equivalent for Loroi here*.

This and the dimming of light is of course only for your personal comfort, Captain. We Loroi have found that talking about taboos works best in a private, not too well lit, environment.

Cheers! *winks*

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Post Re: Page 152 Discussion: "Inventorying your equipment"
Excellion wrote:
boldilocks wrote:
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider152.html

Based on the last panel, are human flight-suits even less flexible than their EVA suits? (His suit seemed pretty inflexible by itself)


I'd assume that an EVA suit will generally be less flexible by default as it would be build to withstand a hard vacuum over long periods of time, whereas a flight suit is likely mostly made to dampen dynamic pressure (I remember page 105 mentioning a liquid breathing medium for those cases as well).
Vacuum, a lot of radiation, and temperature differences that would happen when you are orbiting something somewhat close to the nearby star(s), and you might throw in some protection from micrometeorites too.

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What i believe Alex is saying is that the Loroi suit resembles a flight suit (Which by nature would be less rigid than his own EVA suit), yet that even when considering this the material is remarkably light and flexible compared to a Terran flight suit. Which should not be a huge surprise as the Loroi are a more technically advanced race by quite a margin. Hell, just have a look at our own material science progress over the last century or even the last decade. There have been quite a few leaps in terms of what materials we can construct.

Indeed, or could be a modular design, where the inner layers are serve as flight suit/daily clothes/emergency vacuum suit, and you'd start to add further layers when you prepare for an EVA, especially when you'd are dealing with post combat situations (so lots of debris still around), or the possibility of close combat


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Geeze, all that fuss and he still didn't reveal anything for the hidden cameras. :lol:

I'm trying to think of what the rest of the objects in the storage container might be. Looks like there might be more rations, another more different type of data pad, and some kind of disk storage, or maybe recharging station?


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I'm trying to think of what the rest of the objects in the storage container might be. Looks like there might be more rations, another more different type of data pad, and some kind of disk storage, or maybe recharging station?


Alex pretty much summed it up with "They seem to have grabbed everything that wasn't nailed down" - so different types of tablets, and depending whether they fleeced the wreckage of the crew section or not - given that they picked up rations it's likely that they did - an assortment of personal items and personal use items belonging to the crewmen....

So yes, Beryl wondering over the purpose of a vibrator might be possible :)


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Does the TCA have a tech contract with Apple?


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sunphoenix wrote:
novius wrote:
Beryl: "We really have to talk about your taboos, and soon."


Beryl: "...preferably in my private quarters."

:lol:


With Lube and no clothing for maximum skin contact


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Post Re: Page 152 Discussion: "Inventorying your equipment"
novius wrote:
icekatze wrote:
I'm trying to think of what the rest of the objects in the storage container might be. Looks like there might be more rations, another more different type of data pad, and some kind of disk storage, or maybe recharging station?


Alex pretty much summed it up with "They seem to have grabbed everything that wasn't nailed down" - so different types of tablets, and depending whether they fleeced the wreckage of the crew section or not - given that they picked up rations it's likely that they did - an assortment of personal items and personal use items belonging to the crewmen....


Hmm... begs the question of what kind of charge the data pad has, how long a charge lasts, and whether they grabbed the charger(s) as well as the pads. Are all chargers (finally!) interchangeable in the future, or it it still a horrendous mishmash of competing standards? :P


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Keeping his pad charged does pose some technical problems, but I feel like they should be relatively surmountable. In the short term, I imagine he could grab batteries off of the damaged pads.

In the long term, I'd think they could do one of two things relatively easily.
• Alex seems to have the basic units of measurement memorized, so they could use math to figure out how to calibrate a Loroi power source to provide the correct charge.
• They could take one of the batteries from a pad and test it with whatever the Loroi equivalent of a multimeter is, to directly measure its output in Loroi units.


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Post Re: Page 152 Discussion: "Inventorying your equipment"
While I know Beryl told Alex that they would work something out (or similar) if he found he needed one of the tools from his ship, the fact that Alex is digging through them with the Loroi absent kind of says to me that he is not planning on telling them he has it, or at least not right away... though I guess it would be hard to bring it up later.

Maybe find the one he wants now, then "find" a similar one later and get something set up so it can be charged, but he's actually using a different pad? Hmm... or I'm just overthinking this. ;)

To a large degree agreed that, should it be required, Alex and Beryl can work out what Volts and Amps are and how to get the required power input to the device, it's just a question of whether or not Alex wants them to know he has this particular device.


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Its the
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so batteries probably last a good while longer than they do now.

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Its the
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so batteries probably last a good while longer than they do now.




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