Nope.Murica wrote:In the background of the bottom panel of page 2 I saw someone in what looked like armor was this a colonial marine?
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Has humanity yet have a spaceship vs spaceship war?
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Arioch,
In page 6, center panel, Captain Hamilton muses that the unknown vessel is too far out to be a picket vessel. I am wondering, Earth having no previous alien contact (besides the Orgus), and no battle experience (except their own drills and simulations), how would he know that to be true? Is he just guessing based on Earth-centric simulations?
CJSF
In page 6, center panel, Captain Hamilton muses that the unknown vessel is too far out to be a picket vessel. I am wondering, Earth having no previous alien contact (besides the Orgus), and no battle experience (except their own drills and simulations), how would he know that to be true? Is he just guessing based on Earth-centric simulations?
CJSF
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No, but there have been "police" style engagements in which weapons were fired.Murica wrote:Has humanity yet have a spaceship vs spaceship war?
Hamilton was relying on his own judgment. Bellarmine was at that time a very great distance from the engagement.cacambo43 wrote:In page 6, center panel, Captain Hamilton muses that the unknown vessel is too far out to be a picket vessel. I am wondering, Earth having no previous alien contact (besides the Orgus), and no battle experience (except their own drills and simulations), how would he know that to be true? Is he just guessing based on Earth-centric simulations?
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Like Korea was a "Police action?"Arioch wrote:No, but there have been "police" style engagements in which weapons were fired.
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So in other words humanity is inexperienced outgunned and outnumber do we have anything going for us?
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Uhhhh... Loroi far-sensing abilities can't detect us? Not sure if the Umiak have a similar capability.Murica wrote:So in other words humanity is inexperienced outgunned and outnumber do we have anything going for us?
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Oh yeah should have remembered thatJakelope13 wrote:Uhhhh... Loroi far-sensing abilities can't detect us? Not sure if the Umiak have a similar capability.Murica wrote:So in other words humanity is inexperienced outgunned and outnumber do we have anything going for us?
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Then again that might spawn a 'kill it with fire' response than a lets be friends responseMurica wrote:Oh yeah should have remembered thatJakelope13 wrote:Uhhhh... Loroi far-sensing abilities can't detect us? Not sure if the Umiak have a similar capability.Murica wrote:So in other words humanity is inexperienced outgunned and outnumber do we have anything going for us?
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We have a strategically valuable position, we have maps that can give the Loroi backdoor access to the Umiak, the reverse isn't quite as true.. We also have a significant, if outdated, industrial base.Murica wrote:So in other words humanity is inexperienced outgunned and outnumber do we have anything going for us?
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After rereading some documentation, TCA ships are armed with weapons that are capable of penetrating defensive screens with zero cost towards weapon effectiveness.fredgiblet wrote:We have a strategically valuable position, we have maps that can give the Loroi backdoor access to the Umiak, the reverse isn't quite as true.. We also have a significant, if outdated, industrial base.Murica wrote:So in other words humanity is inexperienced outgunned and outnumber do we have anything going for us?
Thank goodness the Colonial Fleet hasn't mothballed the mass driver cannons
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Mass drivers have approximately zero cost to damage when they encounter a shield, but also have approximately zero contribution towards combat-mode damage-per-second for the ship that carries them. They're very potent demolition devices, but about as useful for Outsider combat as a wrecking ball is for tank combat.Jakelope13 wrote:After rereading some documentation, TCA ships are armed with weapons that are capable of penetrating defensive screens with zero cost towards weapon effectiveness.fredgiblet wrote:We have a strategically valuable position, we have maps that can give the Loroi backdoor access to the Umiak, the reverse isn't quite as true.. We also have a significant, if outdated, industrial base.Murica wrote:So in other words humanity is inexperienced outgunned and outnumber do we have anything going for us?
Thank goodness the Colonial Fleet hasn't mothballed the mass driver cannons
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Very true, but seeing as how the war has become sort-of stagnant (Umiak send out a fleet, Loroi raiders perform hit-and-run maneuvers to whittle down the invading force, then Loroi defense fleets finish off the Umiak forces) I'd imagine that the Terran weapons doctrine would come as a 'breath of fresh air' and, hopefully, turn the tide of the war in the Loroi's favor.Absalom wrote:Mass drivers have approximately zero cost to damage when they encounter a shield, but also have approximately zero contribution towards combat-mode damage-per-second for the ship that carries them. They're very potent demolition devices, but about as useful for Outsider combat as a wrecking ball is for tank combat.Jakelope13 wrote:(...)
Thank goodness the Colonial Fleet hasn't mothballed the mass driver cannons
Heck, if the Terran mass driver rounds are coated in enough stealth materials, the Terran ships could effectively act as sniping vessels, firing rounds that hit the Umiak warships for devastating effect without the Umiak picking up on their weapons.
On that note, how easy is it for someone to detect a Terran mass driver round? I mean, with Terran-based sensor suites, can they spot someone firing off a mass driver round, or would it be undetectable until it sets off the proximity sensors? And would Loroi-based systems be able to pick up the round faster?
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The main problem of mass driver technology is velocity of the projectile fired. While we can make simulations, trajectory predictions how to fire round at moving target it is still only a ferritic sabot "flying" freely in space. Perhaps we could "fire" Hi-yield torpedoes(with additional trust and payload) in mass drivers but I don't know how could we hold it in one piece(high possible it would be shattered by inner forces on launch)Jakelope13 wrote:Very true, but seeing as how the war has become sort-of stagnant (Umiak send out a fleet, Loroi raiders perform hit-and-run maneuvers to whittle down the invading force, then Loroi defense fleets finish off the Umiak forces) I'd imagine that the Terran weapons doctrine would come as a 'breath of fresh air' and, hopefully, turn the tide of the war in the Loroi's favor.Absalom wrote:Mass drivers have approximately zero cost to damage when they encounter a shield, but also have approximately zero contribution towards combat-mode damage-per-second for the ship that carries them. They're very potent demolition devices, but about as useful for Outsider combat as a wrecking ball is for tank combat.Jakelope13 wrote:(...)
Thank goodness the Colonial Fleet hasn't mothballed the mass driver cannons
Heck, if the Terran mass driver rounds are coated in enough stealth materials, the Terran ships could effectively act as sniping vessels, firing rounds that hit the Umiak warships for devastating effect without the Umiak picking up on their weapons.
On that note, how easy is it for someone to detect a Terran mass driver round? I mean, with Terran-based sensor suites, can they spot someone firing off a mass driver round, or would it be undetectable until it sets off the proximity sensors? And would Loroi-based systems be able to pick up the round faster?
If it would be pure ferritic sabot flying with high speed I doubt you could detect it and if you pick it up finally it will be too late to make emergency maneuvers.
I'm more interested in energy emissions. Powering a plasma weapon surly creates larger energy signature than mass drivers.
I like mass effect concept of ship's length mass driver. I wonder how fast we could fire f.e 5kg slug with such barrel.
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And so battlecruisers enter the equation.
From the look of the silhouette of ECS-201 Victory (British clammoring here, or merely an appeal to patriotism?), the engines have either be enlarged, or a couple more added.
At least, since the 3 TCA heavy destroyers still under construction don't seem to have such an engine upgrade, I gather its an increase in hardware, not capability increase by use of more efficient fuel or engine components?
With more heavy cruisers getting the 'Mjolnir conversions', is there another capability that will be decreased in the class to replace shuttle capacity?
From the look of the silhouette of ECS-201 Victory (British clammoring here, or merely an appeal to patriotism?), the engines have either be enlarged, or a couple more added.
At least, since the 3 TCA heavy destroyers still under construction don't seem to have such an engine upgrade, I gather its an increase in hardware, not capability increase by use of more efficient fuel or engine components?
With more heavy cruisers getting the 'Mjolnir conversions', is there another capability that will be decreased in the class to replace shuttle capacity?
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Well another important question is what humanity industrial capacity ? In other words if we put our backs in it how many ships can we pop out a year?
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That would depend on the size and complicity of the ships being build, wouldn't it?Murica wrote:Well another important question is what humanity industrial capacity ? In other words if we put our backs in it how many ships can we pop out a year?
That said, since the formation of the TCA in 2107, appearantly a full 198 ships from at least ten different types/classes have finished construction (according to the ECS numbering, and info gleaned from the Terran Ship Classes page).
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Well what what I meant was of our current ships also with that it might also count failed experimental ships I really don't know navy doctrine is but I do know that's what the US Air Force doesGeoModder wrote:That would depend on the size and complicity of the ships being build, wouldn't it?Murica wrote:Well another important question is what humanity industrial capacity ? In other words if we put our backs in it how many ships can we pop out a year?
That said, since the formation of the TCA in 2107, appearantly a full 198 ships from at least ten different types/classes have been constructed (according to the ECS numbering, and info gleaned from the Terran Ship Classes page).
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Are you talking about Outsider, or the real world?Murica wrote:Well what what I meant was of our current ships also with that it might also count failed experimental ships I really don't know navy doctrine is but I do know that's what the US Air Force does
This post really doesn't make sense to me.
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Sorry real worldGeoModder wrote:Are you talking about Outsider, or the real world?Murica wrote:Well what what I meant was of our current ships also with that it might also count failed experimental ships I really don't know navy doctrine is but I do know that's what the US Air Force does
This post really doesn't make sense to me.