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Of course. I just thought that since the human worlds haven't yet appeared 'officially' in your work, it's still time to adjust the 'canon' so that it reflects the reality better I am fine with it either way, it's a minor and unimportant detail as you said


Yeah you could take a leaf out of Stalin's book..


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Yeah you could take a leaf out of Stalin's book..


Stalin wrote comic books? :shock:


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Victor_D wrote:
Smithy wrote:
Yeah you could take a leaf out of Stalin's book..


Stalin wrote comic books? :shock:


A horrifying and intriguing thought...


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Stalin wrote comic books? :shock:


Yes of course :D. You may have heard of his many popular heroes like:

Captain Soviet (Captain America).

Stalin Man (Iron man)

Super Leader (Superman) did you know that Kim Jong Il sued Stalins publisher claiming that "Super Leader" Was a trademark name for his dad.

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Super Leader (Superman) did you know that Kim Jong Il sued Stalins publisher claiming that "Super Leader" Was a trademark name for his dad.


There seems to be a bit of time displacement going on here. :?

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There seems to be a bit of time displacement going on here. :?


In soviet Russia there is no time displacement :D. In soviet Russia Time displaces you :twisted:.

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Actually I remember watching on TV some Russian comic artist talking about Stalin's era.

He worked at a newspaper (Pravda if I remember correctly) and they did a political comic for tomorrow's issue. He and his colleagues were at the end of their shift and were planing how to spend the rest of the evening drinking vodka. Then he got a phone call. The operator told him that Comrade Stalin will speak to him. He immediately stood at attention. After that, Comrade Stalin himself spoke on the other end of the line. He didn't like the punchline of the joke in the comic, so he told the artist exactly what each character should say and how each palen should be changed in order to make it better and then hung up. From the shock, the artist collapsed back into his chair. Then he told the rest of the guys in the office what happened. They immediately stopped the presses and remade the comic.

So yes, Uncle Joe did make comics, even if it was a little bit indirect.


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Actually I remember watching on TV some Russian comic artist talking about Stalin's era.

He worked at a newspaper (Pravda if I remember correctly) and they did a political comic for tomorrow's issue. He and his colleagues were at the end of their shift and were planing how to spend the rest of the evening drinking vodka. Then he got a phone call. The operator told him that Comrade Stalin will speak to him. He immediately stood at attention. After that, Comrade Stalin himself spoke on the other end of the line. He didn't like the punchline of the joke in the comic, so he told the artist exactly what each character should say and how each palen should be changed in order to make it better and then hung up. From the shock, the artist collapsed back into his chair. Then he told the rest of the guys in the office what happened. They immediately stopped the presses and remade the comic.

So yes, Uncle Joe did make comics, even if it was a little bit indirect.


It actually doesn't surprise me. Stalin was pretty cool because his sense of humor :D .

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It actually doesn't surprise me. Stalin was pretty cool because his sense of humor :D .


... he murdered 6+ million of his own people.


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... he murdered 6+ million of his own people.


Yes and he also had a joke about that :D.

"The death of one man is a tragedy, the deaths of millons is a statistic" Joseph Stalin. :twisted:

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Yes and he also had a joke about that :D.

"The death of one man is a tragedy, the deaths of millions is a statistic" Joseph Stalin. :twisted:


I am not sure whether he was joking or if it was more of a philosophical musing.


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It actually doesn't surprise me. Stalin was pretty cool because his sense of humor :D .


... he murdered 6+ million of his own people.


More like 40+ million if you count in all the victims of his WW2 "strategy".


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I am not sure whether he was joking or if it was more of a philosophical musing.


I'm pretty sure he did both. The man wasn't known for his mental stability :D.

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Victor_D wrote:
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It actually doesn't surprise me. Stalin was pretty cool because his sense of humor :D .


... he murdered 6+ million of his own people.


More like 40+ million if you count in all the victims of his WW2 "strategy".


You have to admit most of those were shot (by Germans).

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Victor_D wrote:
More like 40+ million if you count in all the victims of his WW2 "strategy".


You have to admit most of those were shot (by Germans).


Can't blame the grinder for being fed meat.

(I am quibbling now, I know what you mean. It's just that Stalin's political and especially military strategy was extremely costly in terms of human lives and he didn't give a damn.)


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victor: i believe the correct term is 'cost effective management', if warm human bodies are plentiful and cheap... as a statesman it would in fact be criminally negligent to NOT use them, such a persons right to be called a human being is questionable though.

politicians are the same everywhere, similar circumstances will create similar people.


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victor: i believe the correct term is 'cost effective management', if warm human bodies are plentiful and cheap... as a statesman it would in fact be criminally negligent to NOT use them, such a persons right to be called a human being is questionable though.

politicians are the same everywhere, similar circumstances will create similar people.


Don't defend Stalin, please. The man was a monster who is directly responsible for the deaths of millions - not because he couldn't save his country otherwise, but because he saw little value in human life. Had America had someone like that in position of unquestioned, near-absolute power, the US would probably have lost 10 million soldiers in the war.

Stalin would do well as the leader of the Umiak, though... :twisted:


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GeoModder wrote:
Victor_D wrote:
Grayhome wrote:

... he murdered 6+ million of his own people.


More like 40+ million if you count in all the victims of his WW2 "strategy".


You have to admit most of those were shot (by Germans).


Sad part: no. Stalin holds the title of the bigest murderer of the XX cent. He got out of this nicely, because in the middle of WWII he switched sides. Until german invasion on CCCP soil, nazi invaded 8 countrys and commies 5 (with Poland holding the title of only country being invaded by both commies and nazis in this war - yap we poles have a *luck* for this kind of events). I strongly advise Rising '44 by Norman Davies.


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I think Mao Zedong beats Stalin in the mass-murder department. Estimates range from 45 to 78 million.

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I think Mao Zedong beats Stalin in the mass-murder department. Estimates range from 45 to 78 million.


And both are still loved by a significant part of the (surviving) population of their respective countries.

We are a strange species.


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victor: considering that the prime attributes of any successful politician is lying and being crazy enough to believe his own lies, actual understanding of how national economics and international politics work is at best a secondary requirement....oh right, and allow yourself to be bribed by industry, never forget that one since without it you aint got the funds to pursue a political career.

i was not so much defending stalin as comparing all other politicians to him and saying 'meh same shit, power hungry shits all over the place'.


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Arioch wrote:
I think Mao Zedong beats Stalin in the mass-murder department. Estimates range from 45 to 78 million.


Oh yeah. I always forgeting about that guy. How chinese commies still enslave 1/6 of world population still puzzle me.


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Because there, it is not proper to question your superior.

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And both are still loved by a significant part of the (surviving) population of their respective countries. We are a strange species.


You know what they say. "One mans death is another mans bread". So the survivors were probably just happy with all the free space they got.

Besides dictators have a remarkably ability to preserve order in a society so if you don't have any interest in politics and just want to work, eat, sleep and die in peace (which the majority of the soviet population wanted i think) these men were heroes.

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Victor_D wrote:
Arioch wrote:
I think Mao Zedong beats Stalin in the mass-murder department. Estimates range from 45 to 78 million.


And both are still loved by a significant part of the (surviving) population of their respective countries.

We are a strange species.
Vlad the Impaler's employment programs were reputedly highly effective!


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