The Current State of Human Technology

[Trantor]

Unless there a forum and the autor is still active on it, my guess is he just abandonned the project,

They´re two brothers, and one obviously ceased work because of distraction (contract working) while the other one still wants to continue. According to them, they originally had a LOT of work ahead: 16 Chapters (!!) with 100 pages each.
And i remember weakly that they´re a bit/lot disappointed that AS didn´t performend in terms of earning money at all.
So it is sad but logical that there is no in interesst in working for nothing anymore.
Oh, and the forum is quite dead too. Lots of error messages and no access to older posts, obviously bad maintained.

All in all very sad. This is/was such an outstanding project.
Chris Brudlos really should get himself up again to continue and finish because this would make him and his brother legend.
I mean, after your productive years, what´s left of you? Only few have the abilty to leave a legacy of some means behind.
Yes, it is hard work, no, there´s normally not much money to make or huge fame to gather, and giving up is easy.
But if I had the skills to produce an absolute top-level piece of art, i would still do it. To just NOT waste that chance.

[Grayhome]

Ahh, you have hit upon the plight of artists, to work their art or have a roof over their head and a warm meal in their bellies.

[Trantor]

Ahh, you have hit upon the plight of artists, to work their art or have a roof over their head and a warm meal in their bellies.

What´s a hot dog compared to immortality?

You won´t be remembered for a 9 to 5 job.

[Karst45]

Ahh, you have hit upon the plight of artists, to work their art or have a roof over their head and a warm meal in their bellies.

What´s a hot dog compared to immortality?

You won´t be remembered for a 9 to 5 job.

unless that 9 to 5 job is to conquer the earth!

It's Masaki Kajishima (of Tenchi Muyo!)... there is no need for justification.

wait tenchi muyo, isnt that the anim were that girl with hair like those of fireblade, is an space pirate that just come to earth to annoye an human?

i didnt tought there were space ship in that, just refference to said space ship.

[Paragon]

This should get you up to speed: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TenchiMuyo

or this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenchi_Muyo!

[Trantor]

What´s a hot dog compared to immortality?

You won´t be remembered for a 9 to 5 job.

unless that 9 to 5 job is to conquer the earth!

Just earth? That´s so ´39. WE`re here to conquer the UNIVERSE!

[NOMAD]

maybe, whats the series, never seen it ?

Spaceship Agga Ruter.

thanks Arioch, now it make sense

[Atomic]

Why this fixation on using an incorrect description of entanglement for communications? Saying "it's fictional" doesn't justify it, you can come up with any random thing as an explanation or avoid explaining it at all, and never have any problems with contradicting known physics. Why must it be quantum entanglement? Apart from spreading and reinforcing a misconception of how the physics works, it relies on an effect that readers who understand the physics know doesn't exist.

Because, you know, Quantum Physics, from my very own point of experience, has consistently chewed on all previously set on stone conceptions, threw them out of the window, gave them a wedgie and stole their lunch. It's the appeal of it. And If you can't forgive this heresy, I'd rather not ask about the Loroi's psychic powers to you...

And tachyons would be grossly overused at this point in fiction, mind.

[Mayhem]

Why this fixation on using an incorrect description of entanglement for communications? Saying "it's fictional" doesn't justify it, you can come up with any random thing as an explanation or avoid explaining it at all, and never have any problems with contradicting known physics. Why must it be quantum entanglement? Apart from spreading and reinforcing a misconception of how the physics works, it relies on an effect that readers who understand the physics know doesn't exist.

Because, you know, Quantum Physics, from my very own point of experience, has consistently chewed on all previously set on stone conceptions, threw them out of the window, gave them a wedgie and stole their lunch. It's the appeal of it. And If you can't forgive this heresy, I'd rather not ask about the Loroi's psychic powers to you...

My issue (& Mjolnir's I believe) is the nails on chalk board effect of the casual misuse of known Physics.

Inventing the Foo effect as discovered by Dr. Bar (do correctly) is merely a suspension of disbelief regarding as of yet undiscovered scientific theory, whereas misrepresenting current theory is grating.

Just like TV shows screwing up computers, (e.g. encryption and hacking) and so on also makes me twitch.

The Loroi's psychic powers are fine as there has been no attempt to explain the theoretical basis but instead has focused on enumerating the empirical properties.

[bunnyboy]

My issue (& Mjolnir's I believe) is the nails on chalk board effect of the casual misuse of known Physics.

Inventing the Foo effect as discovered by Dr. Bar (do correctly) is merely a suspension of disbelief regarding as of yet undiscovered scientific theory, whereas misrepresenting current theory is grating.

You are saying that everything works better without midi-chlorians?

[Trantor]

Because, you know, Quantum Physics, from my very own point of experience, has consistently chewed on all previously set on stone conceptions, threw them out of the window, gave them a wedgie and stole their lunch. It's the appeal of it. And If you can't forgive this heresy, I'd rather not ask about the Loroi's psychic powers to you...

My issue (& Mjolnir's I believe) is the nails on chalk board effect of the casual misuse of known Physics.

I can follow you, but remember that we´re still far away from universal knowledge.

[Trantor]

You are saying that everything works better without midi-chlorians?

Depends on the universe.

BTW: This "midichlorian"-thingy is one of the most disappointing concepts ever. "The more dirt in your blood, the mightier you are"?
Sure...

That´s why i prefer sf with more sophisticated world-design.

[Mjolnir]

Because, you know, Quantum Physics, from my very own point of experience, has consistently chewed on all previously set on stone conceptions, threw them out of the window, gave them a wedgie and stole their lunch. It's the appeal of it. And If you can't forgive this heresy, I'd rather not ask about the Loroi's psychic powers to you...

It's not heresy, it's just wrong. As in factually incorrect. It's also lazy and unimaginative, completely unnecessary, and to some degree actively harmful to peoples' understanding of the world.

Loroi abilities are not explained using some broken understanding of real physics. There's nothing in common between Loroi psi and the writing practices I'm objecting to.

And tachyons would be grossly overused at this point in fiction, mind.

If anything, they're both more justifiable and less commonly used than quantum entanglement. Tachyons are any particles that might ever be discovered that travel faster than light, not some specific hypothetical particle or physical phenomenon. New physics might give us tachyons, it won't ever make the typical explanation of entanglement as the basis of FTL comms true.

I can follow you, but remember that we´re still far away from universal knowledge.

Who's saying otherwise? The fact that we don't know everything doesn't mean we don't know anything, and I'm saying specifically that unknown physics is a much better approach than an explanation that directly contradicts or severely mangles what we do know.

BTW: This "midichlorian"-thingy is one of the most disappointing concepts ever. "The more dirt in your blood, the mightier you are"?
Sure... :roll:

They seemed fairly obviously a parallel to mitochondria, not dirt. Still, it's an unsatisfactory and unnecessary answer to a question nobody was asking.

[icekatze]

hi hi

Its like making a sci-fi about a spaceship that has to overcome the steadily increasing gravity as it flies to the moon, because you know gravity has to be stronger the farther you go, otherwise it could never hold onto something as big as the moon.

Wrong physics.

[Paragon]

Okaaaay....

sooo...

Let's talk about pets, from the future!

What new and interesting variations of traditional pets, or entirely new pets, do you think the next hundred years, space exploration, and the advanced technology that comes with those things will bring us?

I'm hoping for cybernetic hamsters. Maybe domesticated sea cows?

Or we could talk about what future music might sound like! Or movies and books are about! Or sports!

Really, anything that gets people to stop having boring unfunny arguments over physics that this thread isn't even supposed to be about anyway.

Seriously please, stop getting butthurt over physics or people calling your ideas unrealistic. Go have internet slap fight somewhere else. Thank you.

[CptWinters]

Really, anything that gets people to stop having boring unfunny arguments over physics that this thread isn't even supposed to be about anyway.

Seriously please, stop getting butthurt over physics or people calling your ideas unrealistic. Go have internet slap fight somewhere else. Thank you.

You haven't been here very long, have you?

Besides, is it unreasonable to ask that a world - even if it is a science fiction setting - follow its own consistent laws? Or that those laws not violate what we know to be true about the mechanics of reality?

[fredgiblet]

an unsatisfactory and unnecessary answer to a question nobody was asking.

The prequels, summarized.

[Mjolnir]

Its like making a sci-fi about a spaceship that has to overcome the steadily increasing gravity as it flies to the moon, because you know gravity has to be stronger the farther you go, otherwise it could never hold onto something as big as the moon.

Or an innocent star collapsing into an all-consuming black hole...the gravity being the worry, not the massive explosion. Or like traveling at "lightspeed" from star to star in hours. Or a high-gravity prison on the surface of a gas giant. Or doing gravitational slingshots around planets at velocities where you travel across the system in days or hours (or even minutes). Or electromagnetic acceleration being a huge advance for weapons because of the lack of recoil. Or the rather strange and oddly common idea that gravity is due to air pressure.

Or that those laws not violate what we know to be true about the mechanics of reality?

It's not even that...some form of FTL is required in Outsider, for example, or the story would be impossible to tell without a completely different setting, and the real universe certainly appears to be one without FTL phenomena. Some settings clearly have their own sets of rules that don't have anything to do with our reality. What irritates me is nonsense masquerading as real world physics, like the quantum entanglement FTL communication, based on a detailed and quite wrong description of a real physical phenomenon.

[CptWinters]

It's not even that...some form of FTL is required in Outsider, for example, or the story would be impossible to tell without a completely different setting, and the real universe certainly appears to be one without FTL phenomena. Some settings clearly have their own sets of rules that don't have anything to do with our reality. What irritates me is nonsense masquerading as real world physics, like the quantum entanglement FTL communication, based on a detailed and quite wrong description of a real physical phenomenon.

I agree; I didn't mean to imply otherwise. Creating an FTL "jump device" or something like the Loroi mental ability makes science-fiction interesting and fun, but when an author justifies it via some piece of physics or biology or what-have-you that I know doesn't work that way... that's when it starts to break down - for me, at least.

[Atomic]

Because, you know, Quantum Physics, from my very own point of experience, has consistently chewed on all previously set on stone conceptions, threw them out of the window, gave them a wedgie and stole their lunch. It's the appeal of it. And If you can't forgive this heresy, I'd rather not ask about the Loroi's psychic powers to you...

It's not heresy, it's just wrong. As in factually incorrect. It's also lazy and unimaginative, completely unnecessary, and to some degree actively harmful to peoples' understanding of the world.

Loroi abilities are not explained using some broken understanding of real physics. There's nothing in common between Loroi psi and the writing practices I'm objecting to.

And tachyons would be grossly overused at this point in fiction, mind.

If anything, they're both more justifiable and less commonly used than quantum entanglement. Tachyons are any particles that might ever be discovered that travel faster than light, not some specific hypothetical particle or physical phenomenon. New physics might give us tachyons, it won't ever make the typical explanation of entanglement as the basis of FTL comms true.

Dude, from my point of view, Quantum Physics in itself is harmful to the understanding of the world. I will from now on avoid such hot topic again, I don't want to bring a Paper-worthy discussion here.(although I do wonder if we would get to the n-branes level).

A question of flavour, really. I only add that as a self-made joke on how everytime real physics is broken, there's a quantum phenomena behind it. (Or a black hole).