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Author:  Logannion [ Fri May 25, 2018 1:00 pm ]
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A bit late, but glad to see updates and events speed up! :)

Also, damn~ Beryl seems to have made herself comfortable pretty quick in his lap. I wonder if anyone is gonna call her out on it.

Even better if Tempo walks in on it :lol:

Author:  cacambo43 [ Fri May 25, 2018 3:22 pm ]
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I'm still confused as to whether a Loroi can or cannot keep thoughts completely to themselves or not.

CJSF

Author:  icekatze [ Fri May 25, 2018 7:44 pm ]
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hi hi

cacambo43 wrote:
I'm still confused as to whether a Loroi can or cannot keep thoughts completely to themselves or not.
I think the answer is: It's complicated.

I think they technically can choose not to telepathy, and if they are highly skilled enough, they can block other telepathic probing. Although, being a military dictatorship as it is, they probably don't have the right to remain silent when it comes to authority figures.

Author:  novius [ Fri May 25, 2018 8:36 pm ]
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icekatze wrote:
hi hi

cacambo43 wrote:
I'm still confused as to whether a Loroi can or cannot keep thoughts completely to themselves or not.
I think the answer is: It's complicated.

I think they technically can choose not to telepathy, and if they are highly skilled enough, they can block other telepathic probing. Although, being a military dictatorship as it is, they probably don't have the right to remain silent when it comes to authority figures.


Since they have two distinct words - "thoughts" and "sanzai" - I'd say that thinking about something is markedly different to sending. So there won't be a constant 'chatter' of random thoughts flying around whenever Loroi are in a single room and busying themselves with their current tasks, though I wouldn't discount a telepathic 'outburst' whenever a Loroi gets upset or surprised.

Though, Beryl found the phrase 'thinking out loud' hilarious. That could very much mean that the line between private thoughts and thoughts other Loroi could pick up is quite blurred.

Author:  Siber [ Fri May 25, 2018 10:14 pm ]
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Can a human keep their thoughts completely to themselves? Word choice, expressions, body language, eye-line, unguarded comments, all can give part of those thoughts away. The exact content might be obscure, but young children are very very bad at hiding their mood, for instance. With enough practice and self-discipline, a human can get some or all these tells under control and be much less readable, intentionally or automatically.

I imagine it's in principle similar for the Loroi, but the amount that an untrained and unguarded person gives away is much much higher. So it takes more discipline to contain it all.

Author:  Arioch [ Sat May 26, 2018 12:48 am ]
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cacambo43 wrote:
I'm still confused as to whether a Loroi can or cannot keep thoughts completely to themselves or not.

The short answer is yes, but the more complicated answer is: sometimes.

Loroi cannot normally read each others thoughts. All adult Loroi have developed some level of mental discipline, which prevents them from "broadcasting" all of their private thoughts, and offers some protection against external efforts to read these thoughts. These barriers can be breached, but this usually requires touch contact, and/or close proximity and a very high telepathic skill level on the part of the would-be hacker. If there is a question of fact or loyalty, a Loroi may be subjected to touch contact with a skilled telepathy (such as a Mizol) who will probably be able to determine the matter.

Unguarded thoughts can often be transmitted through normal telepathic conversation. Because it is inherently truthful, a hidden secret can be reveal overtly through a truthful answer to a sensitive question (or covertly through a non-answer to such a question). Also, an attentive and skilled telepath can discover hidden truths through unguarded moments of normal telepathic conversation.

So, while most Loroi cannot simply read the minds of all other Loroi, secrets can be hard to keep, especially from your friends.

Author:  cacambo43 [ Sat May 26, 2018 2:07 am ]
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Arioch wrote:

So, while most Loroi cannot simply read the minds of all other Loroi, secrets can be hard to keep, especially from your friends.


Thanks for taking the time to explain. If one extends the question to non-Loroi minds, would one expect that if an unskilled or inexperienced Loroi was in a roomful of "aliens" she would be inundated with unguarded thoughts?

CJSF

Author:  Arioch [ Sat May 26, 2018 10:58 am ]
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cacambo43 wrote:
Thanks for taking the time to explain. If one extends the question to non-Loroi minds, would one expect that if an unskilled or inexperienced Loroi was in a roomful of "aliens" she would be inundated with unguarded thoughts?

Non-telepathic aliens do not have the ability to "send", so they can only be read by a Loroi who is actively trying to read them. This usually requires very close proximity or touch.

Author:  NOMAD [ Sat May 26, 2018 12:02 pm ]
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Darroth wrote:
NOMAD wrote:
OOOOOHHHH good page; Icekatze nice to see your character in the comic.

That last panel, are we about to see Talon pulls some very impressive flying . . . TOP GUN style
What's your problem Alex?

You're everyone's problem. That's because every time you fly, you're unsafe. I don't like you because you're dangerous.

That's right! I am dangerous.

*mutual smoldering looks*.


In this case, i see you genious in your flying, but I can't say that or everyone on this shuttle will know that.

@ Darroth nicely done sir . . . brought a smile to my face.

Author:  novius [ Sat May 26, 2018 9:59 pm ]
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NOMAD wrote:
Darroth wrote:
NOMAD wrote:
OOOOOHHHH good page; Icekatze nice to see your character in the comic.

That last panel, are we about to see Talon pulls some very impressive flying . . . TOP GUN style
What's your problem Alex?

You're everyone's problem. That's because every time you fly, you're unsafe. I don't like you because you're dangerous.

That's right! I am dangerous.

*mutual smoldering looks*.


In this case, i see you genious in your flying, but I can't say that or everyone on this shuttle will know that.

@ Darroth nicely done sir . . . brought a smile to my face.


Add the first panel of this page, especially Talon's words to him, and you may actually see a subtext Arioch may have never intended :)

Author:  Voitan [ Sun May 27, 2018 6:53 pm ]
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fredgiblet wrote:
Beryl's arm is still around Alex's shoulders~


Just warming up to the hyoomahn heating pad.

Author:  Voitan [ Sun May 27, 2018 7:29 pm ]
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man_of_foul_tofu wrote:
(1) Enticing as blossoming romance is, I find Romance in a hard SF plot - or in any SF plot twisting with 'because love' followed by the ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ bewildering "now change all our strategies" to be utterly frustratingly stupid. I do not want that here in Outside. [/size]


Bruh, attractive blue aliens with remarkably similar forms to humans almost ALWAYS ends in a romantic first encounter, physically, and culturally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxahwxY_5jg

Author:  Logannion [ Sun May 27, 2018 8:03 pm ]
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Voitan wrote:
man_of_foul_tofu wrote:
(1) Enticing as blossoming romance is, I find Romance in a hard SF plot - or in any SF plot twisting with 'because love' followed by the ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ bewildering "now change all our strategies" to be utterly frustratingly stupid. I do not want that here in Outside. [/size]


Bruh, attractive blue aliens with remarkably similar forms to humans almost ALWAYS ends in a romantic first encounter, physically, and culturally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxahwxY_5jg


Don't harass the hippie :lol:
Besides, you've got to admit that sometimes the romance is a bit forced and shoehorned.

Author:  Krulle [ Mon May 28, 2018 3:08 am ]
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Voitan wrote:
man_of_foul_tofu wrote:
(1) Enticing as blossoming romance is, I find Romance in a hard SF plot - or in any SF plot twisting with 'because love' followed by the ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ bewildering "now change all our strategies" to be utterly frustratingly stupid. I do not want that here in Outside. [/size]


Bruh, attractive blue aliens with remarkably similar forms to humans almost ALWAYS ends in a romantic first encounter, physically, and culturally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxahwxY_5jg

COWABUNGA! (horrible sound quality, one of the reasons I always switched off the speech in UQM.)

Author:  Voitan [ Tue May 29, 2018 5:27 pm ]
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Krulle wrote:
COWABUNGA! (horrible sound quality, one of the reasons I always switched off the speech in UQM.)


Holy smokes, check out dem NAV HUDS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0C5V8OPVI

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