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Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:02 pm
by Keklas Rekobah
Terran dogs may be too "Touchy-Feely" for Loroi (especially Teidar), but cats might be preferred due to their general aloofness and "touch-me-not" behavior.

Specifically, the Scottish Wildcat (Felis silvestris grampia) -- which inspired the motto of Clan Chattan: "Touch Not The Cat Bot A Glove" ("Na Bean Do'n Chat Gun Lamhainn") -- might be favored by Loroi.

https://www.highlandtitles.com/scottish-wildcat/

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:27 pm
by GeoModder
Now I wonder if you read "dogs" or "dogo" in my previous post. :lol:

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:23 pm
by Keklas Rekobah
I read "dogo".  Why would fungi make good pets?

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:03 am
by avatar576
Quickdraw101 wrote:
Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:39 pm
Would most Loroi, military or civilian, care to have any type of pet? Since the only known ones we have in The Union are basically parasitic birds who'll lay eggs in you if they escape their cage, would a common house pet, or just a suitable Earth creature in general, be appealing to them?
I think Arioch said somewhere (maybe partially in jest) that the Loroi are eagerly awaiting the arrival of the kitten vendors from Earth.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:34 pm
by Arioch
Quickdraw101 wrote:
Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:39 pm
Would most Loroi, military or civilian, care to have any type of pet? Since the only known ones we have in The Union are basically parasitic birds who'll lay eggs in you if they escape their cage, would a common house pet, or just a suitable Earth creature in general, be appealing to them?
The only animal vaguely suitable as a "pet" on Deinar and Taben was the boar-like miros, but this was more of an "animal fancier" sort of pet, bred to be smaller or larger, for for exotic fur colors. Deinar and Taben cultures never developed the sort of symbiotic pet relationships that humanity had in dogs and cats.

Perrein had many more useful (and dangerous) organisms. In addition to animals kept for their aesthetics (like the colorful, luminescent, singing beimish), the Perrein Loroi bred various types of sori for useful purposes, such as tracking.

viewtopic.php?p=23658#p23658

Both civilian and military Loroi can and do own pets, though they have to have jobs that allow it (mostly planetside). Most of these animals are the kind that have to be kept in a cage or in a pen outside.

I thnk that cats would make popular pets for the Loroi, as they are both snuggly and independent. Dogs are much more closely attuned to humans, and so I wonder how dogs would react to blue people who don't smell right.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:51 pm
by dragoongfa
Arioch wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:34 pm
I thnk that cats would make popular pets for the Loroi, as they are both snuggly and independent. Dogs are much more closely attuned to humans, and so I wonder how dogs would react to blue people who don't smell right.
I think it would depend on if animals of Earth are susceptible to telepathy. If they are then Loroi should have no problem training and aclimatizing animals to them. Of course this borders in spoiler territory so lets leave it here.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:11 am
by Keklas Rekobah
dragoongfa wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:51 pm
Arioch wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:34 pm
I thnk that cats would make popular pets for the Loroi, as they are both snuggly and independent. Dogs are much more closely attuned to humans, and so I wonder how dogs would react to blue people who don't smell right.
I think it would depend on if animals of Earth are susceptible to telepathy. If they are then Loroi should have no problem training and aclimatizing animals to them. Of course this borders in spoiler territory so lets leave it here.
It does seem reasonable to me that lotai would be common among all species that have evolved on Earth.

I have to wonder how many times farsensing failed to detect Earth when it would (maybe?) have detected a non-human world at a similar distance.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:59 pm
by Keklas Rekobah
Since learning that the red-haired Loroi in chapter 1, page 55, panel 4 is named "Antimony", I have binge-read the entire Gunnerkrieg Court series.

@ARIOCH: Are there any more cameo appearances?

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:58 pm
by Arioch
Keklas Rekobah wrote:
Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:59 pm
Since learning that the red-haired Loroi in chapter 1, page 55, panel 4 is named "Antimony", I have binge-read the entire Gunnerkrieg Court series.

@ARIOCH: Are there any more cameo appearances?
They're listed in the About page.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:13 pm
by Keklas Rekobah
Arioch wrote:
Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:58 pm
Keklas Rekobah wrote:
Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:59 pm
Since learning that the red-haired Loroi in chapter 1, page 55, panel 4 is named "Antimony", I have binge-read the entire Gunnerkrieg Court series.

@ARIOCH: Are there any more cameo appearances?
They're listed in the About page.
So Doranzer Mazil-Toza (Orin) was based on a gargoyle?!  Cool!

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 1:57 pm
by Snoofman
We all seem to know of the Fourth Emperor’s Perrein heritage. But what ethnicity/heritage did the first three emperors have? What were their castes before reaching Torrai?

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 11:36 pm
by Arioch
Snoofman wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 1:57 pm
We all seem to know of the Fourth Emperor’s Perrein heritage. But what ethnicity/heritage did the first three emperors have? What were their castes before reaching Torrai?
Greywind was Mizol and has close ties with the Mizol community on Perrein, but she was born to a prominent family on Deinar. I don't have access to my documents at the moment to double check, but I believe all four emperors were natives of Deinar.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 12:42 pm
by Quickdraw101
I got a question, even if the answer seems rather obvious, I want confirmation before I do a stupid in my fic. In a scenario where the survivor/s of the Bellarmine had been armed in any way, and the Loroi could easily determine they are a soldier, or some type of combatant, would they have more guards escorting them around than Alex did? And another question, how exactly do the Loroi view cybernetics, such as replacement limbs? We know they hate full on cyborg esqe shit, like the Umiak, but what about those that act as replacements, for those who don't have cloning abilities?

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 2:37 pm
by Arioch
Quickdraw101 wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 12:42 pm
I got a question, even if the answer seems rather obvious, I want confirmation before I do a stupid in my fic. In a scenario where the survivor/s of the Bellarmine had been armed in any way, and the Loroi could easily determine they are a soldier, or some type of combatant, would they have more guards escorting them around than Alex did?
Loroi would assume that anyone could be a combatant. Fireblade and Tempo don't carry weapons, but that doesn't make them any less dangerous.

I think where you might see extra security is if the individual looked like one or two Loroi couldn't handle him alone.
And another question, how exactly do the Loroi view cybernetics, such as replacement limbs? We know they hate full on cyborg esqe shit, like the Umiak, but what about those that act as replacements, for those who don't have cloning abilities?
Loroi medical tech allows for replacement of body parts using real tissue, so mechanical prosthetics are mostly used as temporary stopgaps when awaiting more permanent replacement.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 12:18 am
by Keklas Rekobah
Arioch wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 2:37 pm
Loroi medical tech allows for replacement of body parts using real tissue, so mechanical prosthetics are mostly used as temporary stopgaps when awaiting more permanent replacement.
This implies that Loroi scientists have familiarity with cloning techniques. Do they?

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 2:04 am
by Arioch
Keklas Rekobah wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 12:18 am
Arioch wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 2:37 pm
Loroi medical tech allows for replacement of body parts using real tissue, so mechanical prosthetics are mostly used as temporary stopgaps when awaiting more permanent replacement.
This implies that Loroi scientists have familiarity with cloning techniques. Do they?
They have sufficient knowledge of gene therapy to be able to stimulate the growth of tissues (either in vivo or in vitro), but I don't know if that's what you mean by cloning. They don't grow cloned Loroi and harvest their parts, if that's what you're greeting at.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 1:01 pm
by Keklas Rekobah
Arioch wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 2:04 am
Keklas Rekobah wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 12:18 am
Arioch wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 2:37 pm
Loroi medical tech allows for replacement of body parts using real tissue, so mechanical prosthetics are mostly used as temporary stopgaps when awaiting more permanent replacement.
This implies that Loroi scientists have familiarity with cloning techniques. Do they?
They have sufficient knowledge of gene therapy to be able to stimulate the growth of tissues (either in vivo or in vitro), but I don't know if that's what you mean by cloning. They don't grow cloned Loroi and harvest their parts, if that's what you're greeting at.
No, sir!  I think that practice would be as barbaric as harvesting organs from prison inmates.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 10:59 am
by G. Janssen
Keklas Rekobah wrote:
Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:23 pm
I read "dogo".  Why would fungi make good pets?
They don't run away, don't wreck your stuff, don't annoy the neighbours and don't attack kids.

They're soft to the touch and pleasant to stroke. And if you have a wound, you can put part of your petnicillin on your wound to prevent infection. They eat crap and turn it into useful compost, while other pets eat expensive food and turn it into crap.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 12:26 pm
by Quickdraw101
How do the Loroi typically handle first contact with other technological advanced species? Or should I say, species who are also spacefaring, but far from a great power like the Umiak, Union, or Nissek, who are exploring, and accidentally end up in their territory. Basically, like how the TCA found a Union system in the middle of battle, only something like that happened in peace time

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 2:25 pm
by Arioch
Surprise contacts like between human-Orgus and human-Loroi are pretty rare, as unless the aliens have been isolated in some way (as with humanity within the Great Wasteland), you will usually get intelligence reports about their existence through neighbors, etc. Most first contact is done remotely with messages carried by intermediaries, establishing a time and place for delegations to meet.

The Loroi also have the advantage of farsensing, both to reveal the alien civilization's presence, as well as to detect approaching alien ships. An alien exploration vessel would usually be met at the frontier by a Loroi task force.

The first phase would involve procedures to establish communication protocols. This might be a quick or relatively drawn out process, depending on whether the civilizations have access to shared communication standards. Once established, preliminary overtures would be made, again with varying difficulty depending on whether there are languages that both sides have shared exposure to. I think it's unlikely that ships of either party would attempt to approach the other before communication is established, as this could easily be misinterpreted as a hostile act, so these steps would be taken from a respectful distance.

What happens next will depend on the success of earlier steps, and what if any meeting agreements are negotiated. The Loroi will seek to obtain permission to send a boarding party aboard the alien vessel to assess the situation, and if this meeting goes well, to bring an alien delegation aboard a Loroi vessel for extended talks. Alien access will usually be restricted to a single designated Loroi vessel; if available, the most powerful ships in the Loroi force will be kept at the ready in the event that something goes terribly wrong.