Surely you mean no known way? The Loroi have psi-amplifers, so if technology that amplifies PSI is possible, then the reverse must also hold true. It should be possible to create psi-nullifiers.Arioch wrote: Loroi are nightmare prisoners: they can communicate with each other in telepathic ways you can't overhear or prevent, and even an unarmed civilian Loroi may be able to use her telepathy offensively. Attempting to capture a Mizol or Teidar is nearly out of the question: there is no way (except keeping her permanently unconscious) to prevent a psionic Loroi from using her powers against her captors. And there is no way (uniforms aside) to be sure that Loroi you are trying to capture is not a Mizol or Teidar, so the Umiak now generally kill any Loroi they come into contact with as a general rule, regardless of whether they appear to be military or civilian.
Ah the "on the spot decision making", should be interesting to see what she decidesCdr Straker wrote: Until we have more interaction with Umiak, we're just not going to know what klick-klack-tallywack's motivations or truthfulness are. I think that Stillstorm will have to take it at it's word and make decisions based on the best tactical analysis she's got.
From what has been discussion about the strike groups ( relying on my very reliable memory (Cdr Straker wrote: I don't think it's been discused, yet, but what is the status of the fleet train? Where is the rally point for the Loroi task groups? Can the 51st quickly replenish ordnance, fuel and consumables? At this point, the leadership of the 51st is behind the power curve on intel and it will take decisive action on Stillstorm's part to extricate them from this situation with any hope of continued combat effectiveness. Even, as has been discussed, a retreat into Human space will not solve their immediate supply problems (beans, bullets, bandaids), nor give them access to ship repair facilities. We're entering Battlestar Galactica territory, there. Hopefully, the Loroi are resorceful and flexible, as I assume they must be, having fought an implacable enemy for this period of time.
. . moving on)) The strike groups operation on an intercepting and raiding role, thus, they operate on their own with the intel they were provided with ( IE how the other two SG's got eliminated, due the farseer jamming). Therefore, in my opinion ( no experience with logistics here so anyone feel free to correct 
) means their probably isn't any support fleet or tankers waiting for them at a pre-planned RV point, since their is no FLT communication in the Outsider Uni and, a top of that, it would be risky to jeopardize valuable essential supplies ( fuel, torpedos, Blisters, replacement crew etc) and the Fleet supply ships carrying them, on a chance that a Umiak fleet were to get through ( which would ruin the support fleet day obviously).I though that Farseers could communicate with other Farseers at interstellar distances at FTL.Arioch wrote:Without FTL communications, resupply must be either at prearranged places and times, or the resupply convoy must have a Farseer so she can detect and "intercept" the friendly strike groups. Farseers are in short enough supply that they can rarely be "wasted" on supply convoys.
For the normal, continuously-operating interdiction forces, they must return to friendly territory to meet a resupply convoy. These are usually stationed at the border, so that strike groups don't always have to return to a deeper regional base (such as Azimol).
Except for some kind of special pre-arranged offensive, the Loroi have no safe way to project supply resources out into the Steppes (and strike groups have no means to call for such supply... Farseers are FTL detectors, but not FTL radios).
Direct communication would apparently pose a danger to nearby Loroi and likely rapidly burn out the Farseer. If anyone ever tried, it'd be to give some very bad news. Farseers' talents and equipment might also just not be set up for it.Aygar wrote:I though that Farseers could communicate with other Farseers at interstellar distances at FTL.
Okay, I remember the post about the detrimental effects of extreme distance tele-sending. I guess I just assumed that if a Loroi, with sensitive tele-receive, amplified the sensitivity of her tele-receive ability she could receive normal strength directed tele-sends at interstellar distances. And that Farseers generally had that sensitivity and amps for that, thus 2 Farseers could communicate with each other at interstellar distances without adverse consequences for the rank and file Loroi.Mjolnir wrote:Direct communication would apparently pose a danger to nearby Loroi and likely rapidly burn out the Farseer. If anyone ever tried, it'd be to give some very bad news. Farseers' talents and equipment might also just not be set up for it.Aygar wrote:I though that Farseers could communicate with other Farseers at interstellar distances at FTL.
They could arrange for other sorts of signaling, though...even if it's as simple as selecting a different prearranged course based. And the Farseers can see Loroi forces going from system to system and taking casualties, so they can give guidance to other Loroi forces passing through to allow forces multiple jumps apart to coordinate without direct communication. I wonder if the Umiak ever tried to cripple Loroi ships without killing the crew to slow the arrival of reinforcements...
The Umiak could get more use out of telepathy. Just carry a sufficiently large bank of brains in jars wired so you can turn them on and off and send a visible signal to your Farseers...
I wonder what affect such a device would have upon a human?It should be possible for a Farseer to detect a hugely amplified signal, but then you have the problem of shattering the telepathic "eardrums" of every Loroi near to the transmission -- including the transmitter herself.
Grayhome wrote:I wonder what affect such a device would have upon a human?It should be possible for a Farseer to detect a hugely amplified signal, but then you have the problem of shattering the telepathic "eardrums" of every Loroi near to the transmission -- including the transmitter herself.
I hope that wasn't in a girly voiceKarst45 wrote:
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Had this idea sitting around for awhile...bunnyboy wrote:How about presense amplifier based morse type codes?
(Now you can sense me, now you not.)
"Mind train" goes out of hands. Now I'm thinking of telepathic internet, where the farseers handle the bytes manually. It would be slow.
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Network Working Group Lis. Toz. Eilis
Request for Comments: 51149 Loroi Fleet SG-51
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A Standard for the Transmission of IP Datagrams over Sanzai Networks
out of my head long enough for any other idea to have a chance."yeah and next you'll want me to believe that this is 6 inches"