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Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thread

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:38 pm
by Arioch
Snoofman wrote:
Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:44 am
Is there political division among the Umiak? If so, what regions of Umiak territory have diverged from the dogma of the Hierarchy?
The military Umiak that outsiders most commonly come into contact with are manufactured and educated by the state. If there is internal Umiak division, these individuals don't know any details about it.

Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thread

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:30 pm
by toyota corolla
New here, hi.
Is there an in-universe reason why the Historian Emissary acts so blatantly rude and untrustworthy (not only does this sabotage his effectiveness in arguing any particular point, it sabotages the reputation of Historians as it serves as their public face), or is that just following genre tropes?

Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thread

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:33 am
by Bamax
toyota corolla wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:30 pm
New here, hi.
Is there an in-universe reason why the Historian Emissary acts so blatantly rude and untrustworthy (not only does this sabotage his effectiveness in arguing any particular point, it sabotages the reputation of Historians as it serves as their public face), or is that just following genre tropes?

If the Historian talks rather in a patronizing or condescending way toward the Loroi it is seems to be in character for the historian view of Loroi... at least when speaking to them directly.

It also fits genre tropes of a higher but know-it-all race.

Remember the weapons the Loroi fight the war with are based off design schematics given from the Historians.

The Historians have seen a lot happen and go down, and likely are familiar with the old human adage or at least some alien variation of it: "The story of history belongs to the victors."

Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thread

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:11 am
by spacewhale
toyota corolla wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:30 pm
New here, hi.
Is there an in-universe reason why the Historian Emissary acts so blatantly rude and untrustworthy (not only does this sabotage his effectiveness in arguing any particular point, it sabotages the reputation of Historians as it serves as their public face), or is that just following genre tropes?
They get cranky being stored in their little flower pots, like little electronic spyware genies.

Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thread

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:42 am
by Snoofman
Bamax wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:33 am
toyota corolla wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:30 pm
New here, hi.
Is there an in-universe reason why the Historian Emissary acts so blatantly rude and untrustworthy (not only does this sabotage his effectiveness in arguing any particular point, it sabotages the reputation of Historians as it serves as their public face), or is that just following genre tropes?

If the Historian talks rather in a patronizing or condescending way toward the Loroi it is seems to be in character for the historian view of Loroi... at least when speaking to them directly.

It also fits genre tropes of a higher but know-it-all race.

Remember the weapons the Loroi fight the war with are based off design schematics given from the Historians.

The Historians have seen a lot happen and go down, and likely are familiar with the old human adage or at least some alien variation of it: "The story of history belongs to the victors."
The loroi seem to respect strength. So while politeness seems like the most logical language of diplomats, perhaps the Historians need to display dominance in certain aspects. As if to say, “We are allies, but we are not your subjects.” A display of kindness is beneficial in diplomacy, but showing kindness to an ally that has committed what should be construed as a war crime would be akin to an American diplomat sweet talking Putin into easing up. It just doesn’t work.

Also remember due to the cost of the war, in resources as well as lives, a lot of races are being pushed to their limits. The loroi do not seem popular or regarded fondly for their genocide of the Tithric at the moment. It’s a miracle they haven’t devolved into civil war yet, even with Greywind’s iron fist.