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is a thing that I'm working on.

Thoughts?

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Maybe it could be in Trade and Umiak? Or Standard and Loroi Trade? :P

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Trade, maybe :P

I plan to at least do the promo cards in Trade.

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What do you guys think ?


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Pretty.

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Post Re: An Outsider-themed Magic: The Gathering set
Oh nice.

There are a few problems, though:

  • Erebas etc. etc.'s name needs shortened so it isn't squished.
  • The artist credit should be Jim Francis, not Arioch.
  • The copyright line needs to be "™ & © 2015 Wizards of the Coast".
  • There's an unreplaced placeholder in Scimitar-class Heavy Cruiser's text box.

I'd be interested in working with you on this. :)

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Carl Miller wrote:
[*]The artist credit should be Jim Francis, not Arioch.

That doesn't matter to me one way or the other.

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Also, Greatsword-Class Battleship is extremely good. It's a strictly better Resto Angel (because it's uncommon and doesn't require any colored mana), and that's still a $7 card almost two years after it left Standard.

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Carl Miller wrote:
Erebas etc. etc.'s name needs shortened so it isn't squished.

There are a lot of cards that have name like this. The initial idea was that Tempest was a rare type of ship so that is why the names is written in Loroi Trade ("Erebas"). If it's not looking good, we can use "Vortex-class Command Vessel" then.

Carl Miller wrote:
The artist credit should be Jim Francis, not Arioch.

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That doesn't matter to me one way or the other.

Now that you said, I think "Jim Francis" make it look more realistic.

Carl Miller wrote:
The copyright line needs to be "™ & © 2015 Wizards of the Coast".

I copied the line from some card I found in the internet (4chan I think). The cards are not original at wall, they were copied from Space: The Convergence, as you already know. So I though that line was good enough.

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There's an unreplaced placeholder in Scimitar-class Heavy Cruiser's text box.

Fixing it...

Carl Miller wrote:
I'd be interested in working with you on this. :)

Sure. You will need this:
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Carl Miller wrote:
Also, Greatsword-Class Battleship is extremely good. It's a strictly better Resto Angel (because it's uncommon and doesn't require any colored mana), and that's still a $7 card almost two years after it left Standard.


I was rather lazy so I copied a S:tC card "Flikerfleet". Space: the Convergence doesn't have a symbol to display the rarity of the card , so I didn't knew.


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I already have MSE, and pretty much all the Magic templates. :D

I renamed it to Command Vessel Erebas, and also gave all the ships races (Loroi, Umiak, or Human, as appropriate).

Also, I think we'd be better off just using normal Magic terminology.

Here's one of my own cards:

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Legendary Creature — Loroi Lord {M}
Battle cry (Whenever this creature attacks, each other attacking creature gets +1/+0 until end of turn.)
Exalted (Whenever a creature you control attacks alone, that creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)
4/4

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I renamed it to Command Vessel Erebas, and also gave all the ships races (Loroi, Umiak, or Human, as appropriate).

We should figure out all the types of creatures/units.

Humans have: Battlecruiser, Heavy Cruiser, Light Cruiser, Destroyer, Heavy Destroyer, Long-Range Scout, Heavy Scout, Long-Range Transport, Frigate, Fire Support Destroyer, Heavy Tug, Medium Transport.

Loroi have: Imperial Flagship, Sector Command Ship, Assault Carrier, Imperial Command Ship, Group Command Ship, Battleship, Heavy Battleship, Battlecruiser, War Cruiser, Strike Carrier, Heavy Cruiser, Escort Cruiser, Heavy Carrier, Command Cruiser, Light Cruiser, Light Carrier, Destroyer, Frigate, Fleet Support Tanker, Scout, Courier Corvette, Freighter, Passenger Transport, Troop Transport, Interceptor, Light Interceptor, Attack Craft, Heavy Fighter, Utility Shuttle, Heavy Transport, Trans-Atmospheric Shuttle, VIP Transport Shuttle, Assault Shuttle.

Umiak have: Ultraheavy, Superheavy, Heavy, Medium, Light.

Carl Miller wrote:
Also, I think we'd be better off just using normal Magic terminology.

The main reason to use the Space terms is that they come from a space fantasy setting rather than a medieval one.

Summon = Teleport
Land = Resource
Vigilance = Stabilize
Instant = Tactic
Artifact = Device
Sorcery = Strategy

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Torrai Azerein Ramarinzil ImageImageImage
Legendary Creature — Loroi Lord {M}
Battle cry (Whenever this creature attacks, each other attacking creature gets +1/+0 until end of turn.)
Exalted (Whenever a creature you control attacks alone, that creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)
4/4

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Also, I prefer Greywind as Admiral:

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Onaiom wrote:
We should figure out all the types of creatures/units.


Right now I have creature types Barsam, Delrias, Golim, Human, Loroi, Lurs, Orgus, Spirit, Tanuki, Umiak, Advisor, Berserker, Cleric, Construct, Elder, Knight, Lord, Nomad, Rogue, Scout, Ship, Warrior; plus the planeswalker type Tempest.

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The main reason to use the Space terms is that they come from a space fantasy setting rather than a medieval one.


You're still using Magic's card frames and graphical assets, and if it looks like a duck...

Besides, parallels can easily be drawn in not-disrespectable number between the Loroi Union and feudal Japan, and they did do Kamigawa block :P

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Also, I prefer Greywind as Admiral:

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I have Soroin as Scouts (presently red/green though colors are up in the air right now). But I wouldn't print Ramarinzil-the-planeswalker at all, since she's a functional reprint of Ajani, Caller of the Pride.

Here's my card ideas; ones with an underscore are salvaged from an older iteration. You'll need these templates (and may need to run MSE as an admin to get the installer to work).

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Carl Miller wrote:
You're still using Magic's card frames and graphical assets, and if it looks like a duck...

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Besides, parallels can easily be drawn in not-disrespectable number between the Loroi Union and feudal Japan, and they did do Kamigawa block

And the Umiak ? And the others aliens ?

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Artifact Creature — Umiak Warrior Image
Deathtouch, lifelink
When Khalkha Wardroid dies, put a 3/3 colorless Umiak Warrior artifact creature token with deathtouch and a 3/3 colorless Umiak Warrior artifact creature token with lifelink onto the battlefield.
6/6
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Umiak Warrior
Token Artifact Creature — Umiak Warrior Image
Deathtouch (Any amount of damage this deals to a creature is enough to destroy it.)
3/3

Umiak Warrior
Token Artifact Creature — Umiak Warrior Image
Lifelink (Damage dealt by this creature also causes you to gain that much life.)
3/3

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Maybe I should revisit this now that Vehicles are a thing… :thinking:

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Post Re: An Outsider-themed Magic: The Gathering set
These are great. More please.
Notices a typo on the Greatsword-class Battleship were in the description it refers to the card as a Greatsword-class Battlecruiser instead.


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Go for it. I really like what you did with those cards.


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