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Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:41 am
by Hālian
Arioch wrote:If you're asking whether there is a dedicated position whose job it is to speak for the common solider, I don't imagine there is. I can't think of any equivalent in any Earth military.
SMA
MCPON
SgtMajMarCor
CMSAF
MCPOCG
and more generally they're called senior enlisted advisors.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:55 pm
by discord
Arioch wrote:
  • A warrior child of Clan A is taken in a raid by Clan B, and raised in Clan B where no one really paid any attention to where she came from. She rises to prominence and eventually leads Clan B in an attack on Clan A, and destroys them. A survivor recognizes her telepathic signature and informs her that she's just killed her entire family. She goes mad and leads Clan B to ruin.
  • A warrior child of Clan A is taken in a raid by Clan B, and raised as a worker in the new clan. She rises to prominence in the civilian order of Clan B and eventually leads a successful worker revolt, destroying the warrior class of the clan. The neighboring clans (including Clan A) attack and destroy the rebels. As the hero lies wounded, her sisters recognize her telepathic signature and are reunited with her, but she dies shortly after.
I must admit that sounds absolutely Chinese in character, since it is a culture where a happy ending to a romantic story allows the lovers to die together, not live together, NEVER live together, but die together is acceptable.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:04 am
by Jayngfet
Are the turrets and launchers on civillian ships operated by civilian or military caste? I'm assuming unless they have permanent escort they'd need some way to defend themselves.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:39 am
by Chekist_Felix
Kinda outta nowhere, but it's just occur to me... Is it safe to assume that while Alex was in a brig he mostly interact with Reed? It's probably make her the most familiar loroi for him, even in comparison to main cast, doesn't it? They have... somewhat casual... feel in they interaction in a corridor scene.

ps i kinda like Reed for some reason, hope she get more lines :)

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:56 am
by Arioch
Jayngfet wrote:Are the turrets and launchers on civillian ships operated by civilian or military caste? I'm assuming unless they have permanent escort they'd need some way to defend themselves.
Most of the armed support vessels (transports, tankers, couriers) that operate near the enemy are actually military rather than civilian; the Loroi fleet has a sort of merchant marine section. There are purely civilian starships, but these mostly operate in interior routes that are unlikely to meet the enemy.

That said, some of the civilian starships have laser point defense, but the reactor and engines themselves are potentially very dangerous weapons; you can do a lot of damage with an unarmed starship. There are no warriors aboard these ships, but as a civilian you need to put a lot of permits in a row to get permission to operate such a powerful vehicle. I expect this is also true of other non-warrior societies.
Chekist_Felix wrote:Kinda outta nowhere, but it's just occur to me... Is it safe to assume that while Alex was in a brig he mostly interact with Reed? It's probably make her the most familiar loroi for him, even in comparison to main cast, doesn't it? They have... somewhat casual... feel in they interaction in a corridor scene.
There was probably at least one other security officer that spoke to Alex besides Reed, but Reed did most of it. Reed and Alex were not exactly chummy, but they had developed a sort of functional, if minimal, working relationship. I think Beryl has already exceeded the total amount of conversation that Alex had with Reed.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:26 pm
by inxsi
What do young (2 - 6 year old) Loroi do for fun?

Outside of times of war, when and how are young Loroi being trained for the warrior caste traditionally exposed to violence and death?

Who teaches the warrior schools that 6-8 year old Loroi warriors attend?

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:34 pm
by entity2636
inxsi wrote:What do young (2 - 6 year old) Loroi do for fun?
They learn to use their telepathy/telekinesis, learn survival in the wilderness, melee and unarmed combat and various ways of killing animals and other children, so as to not get eaten by wildlife or killed by their own or a competing diral band, when they turn 6 and are sent out into the wilderness to fend for themselves.

More details can be found here http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/forum ... rites.html

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:06 pm
by Arioch
inxsi wrote:What do young (2 - 6 year old) Loroi do for fun?
Female Loroi children play in much the same way 4-12 year old male human children do: rambunctious outdoor play, some organized sports, some indoor games, exploring, tinkering, building things, breaking things.

Male Loroi children are usually segregated in an order monastery, and tend to engage in indoor activities. Crafts and social games are popular.
inxsi wrote:Outside of times of war, when and how are young Loroi being trained for the warrior caste traditionally exposed to violence and death?

Who teaches the warrior schools that 6-8 year old Loroi warriors attend?
Young Loroi children often play "army" (much as human children do) in which they pretend to kill and be killed. In the diral band training phase from ages 6-8, the children go through a combination of basic training and wilderness survival school, during which they will sometimes conduct mock raids on each other and on local settlements. Injury during the training is common, and the occasional fatality is not that uncommon.

The diral band training is not really a school in the traditional sense. Practices vary widely, but there is usually a semi-permanent base camp in some frontier area where the instructors live and which has a supply depot and medical facilities, etc. The teaching staff consists of elder warriors assisted by young novices. The bands of children are organized and drilled, and taught specific sets of survival skills, and then sent into the wilderness on various missions (including "just go survive for a month"), upon returning from which they are given additional training. The novices occasionally go with the bands as guides, or sometimes just follow them at a distance to track their status and progress.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:03 am
by entity2636
Alright, I've probably criticized and made fun of the Loroi more than enough to become very "popular" among them and should be worried about my hide by now, but I actually have an honest and serious question about them.

I don't remember reading about it directly, although it might have been implied somewhere, but I am wondering what the climate aboard Loroi starships would be, i.e. what is their comfortable room temperature.

Our body temperature is 36-37*C and for us the comfortable room temperature is 20-22*C - as a rule of thumb, 15* lower than our body temperature, to, in layman's terms, ensure cooling without sweating and not wasting energy for heating. I mean some people prefer and are used to it being warmer, some - cooler, but that's the average.

Since the Loroi body temperature is ~27*C and it has been stated that for a human it feels cool inside their ships, I would guess their comfortable room temperature would be around 10-12*C ? To be honest, that is actually cold and a human (read Alex) can easily freeze/develop hypothermia in such conditions if not dressed appropriately or constantly moving.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:03 pm
by Dorfington
It's a shame Alexander wont be rocking a bitching beard in later chapters. Not even a little stubble Arioch?

In any case, I was wondering if Loroi males grow facial hair. I assume due to the fact that they are based on elves that the answer to that is a no.

If that is the case, then how would a Loroi react to the sight of a human male with a full, neatly trimmed, regal, respect commanding beard?

And yes, I have read that deliciously atrocious little fanfic and seen the accompanying images. You damn well know what I'm referring too. :lol:

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:43 pm
by Jethreuel
Which Fanfic had Loroi meeting someone with beards?

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:03 pm
by entity2636
@Dorfington - no, Loroi men don't grow facial hair. As a matter of fact, the Loroi, both men and women, don't have any body hair, except on their heads.
Jethreuel wrote:Which Fanfic had Loroi meeting someone with beards?
"What to do with Jardin" for one example http://www.well-of-souls.com/forums/vie ... f=4&t=1143 and if you haven't read it, trust me, it gets real good from the 2nd page onwards. TCA Admiral Callan in that one has a beard as do some other background characters. Also, as far as I remember, "The Pale Horse". Old retired Jardin in that one also had a beard.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:10 pm
by Arioch
entity2636 wrote:I don't remember reading about it directly, although it might have been implied somewhere, but I am wondering what the climate aboard Loroi starships would be, i.e. what is their comfortable room temperature.

Our body temperature is 36-37*C and for us the comfortable room temperature is 20-22*C - as a rule of thumb, 15* lower than our body temperature, to, in layman's terms, ensure cooling without sweating and not wasting energy for heating. I mean some people prefer and are used to it being warmer, some - cooler, but that's the average.

Since the Loroi body temperature is ~27*C and it has been stated that for a human it feels cool inside their ships, I would guess their comfortable room temperature would be around 10-12*C ? To be honest, that is actually cold and a human (read Alex) can easily freeze/develop hypothermia in such conditions if not dressed appropriately or constantly moving.
Yeah, it's quite cold. It's around 50-60°F or 10-15°C.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:24 pm
by Jethreuel
You had mentioned accompanying images regarding the fanfic. I have read What to do with Jardin, and hope that it gets further updates, but I don't recall any accompanying images in that or the other Fanfics on the forum. Sorry, I should have had my question a little more clear.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:31 pm
by Dorfington
Basically someone altered several images of the main Loroi characters with beards and put them on a 4chan board.

http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1 ... 002787.png

http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1 ... 821189.jpg

http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1 ... 478866.jpg

Sometime later a short fic was written on this sight where Alex was sexually assaulted by a heavily bearded Fireblade. Search and read at your own risk.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:37 pm
by icekatze
hi hi

When I'm walking to and from work, 50 degrees Fahrenheit is "jeans and a t-shirt" weather, as long as the sun is shining. If I'm just standing around and not moving, then it would probably get to be miserably cold at that temperature. 60 Fahrenheit is chilly without being active, but perfectly workable.

That being said, Alex's jumpsuit looks pretty warm.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:30 am
by Krulle
Thanks, Dorfington.

Haven't seen those images yet.
Ah, posted 2010. Before my current Outsider fandom.Last time I also wasn't participating in any forums....

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:09 pm
by dragoongfa
Let's put the question to rest because now it is bugging even me (and I think that this has been asked before but can't for the life of me find it):

How strong are the Loroi in physical terms?

Matching their human counterparts, stronger, weaker that short of thing. I would expect for Loroi warriors to match a physically adept woman, perhaps even a noticeable fraction stronger.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:52 pm
by cacambo43
dragoongfa wrote:Let's put the question to rest because now it is bugging even me (and I think that this has been asked before but can't for the life of me find it):

How strong are the Loroi in physical terms?

Matching their human counterparts, stronger, weaker that short of thing. I would expect for Loroi warriors to match a physically adept woman, perhaps even a noticeable fraction stronger.
C'mon over to the page 126 thread where we are talking about his very thing!

CJSF

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:55 pm
by Arioch
dragoongfa wrote:Let's put the question to rest because now it is bugging even me (and I think that this has been asked before but can't for the life of me find it):

How strong are the Loroi in physical terms?

Matching their human counterparts, stronger, weaker that short of thing. I would expect for Loroi warriors to match a physically adept woman, perhaps even a noticeable fraction stronger.
Female Loroi have similar strength as a human male of the same height, and slightly better endurance (though a human male of the same height will probably outweigh her by about 10%). You can consult the GURPS character sheets if you want specific examples (in this system, Alex is ST10 DX10 IQ17 HT10).