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Now that I think about it a little bit more, Beryl insisting on treating Alex's arguably superficial wound might also have something to do with how she is coping in a crisis situation where there is otherwise nothing for her to do. The expression on her face on the next page, where she talks about how they can't call for help, I get that sort of feeling.

I mean, assuming they don't come up with a brilliant plan, they might have a lot of sitting around doing nothing ahead of them.

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icekatze wrote:
I mean, assuming they don't come up with a brilliant plan, they might have a lot of sitting around doing nothing ahead of them.
While this makes sense from a hyperrealistic perspective (i.e., how things might really happen in such a situation), it doesn't really move the plot or advance the story in any meaningful way, so I doubt we'll have too many panels of the gang sitting around (unless used as a flashback opportunity, I suppose).

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You don't think Tempo's suggesting hyjacking an Umiak ship somehow, do you?

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cacambo43 wrote:While this makes sense from a hyperrealistic perspective (i.e., how things might really happen in such a situation), it doesn't really move the plot or advance the story in any meaningful way, so I doubt we'll have too many panels of the gang sitting around (unless used as a flashback opportunity, I suppose).
Yes and no. Sitting around and waiting either for something to happen or to be rescued is realistic and what one would expect over the next couple of days or weeks in-universe. This downtime would be a great opportunity for a cultural exchange (no, not what some of you might think) or flashbacks. We have 9 people in the shuttle out of which one is a foreigner. I'm quite sure that, unless most loroi are really thick, everyone would take the opportunity to find out about each others' culture, society, etc. Time spent in a meaningful way both in-universe and out, since "on screen" there has been very little exposition or background info.

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Due to Sanzai-information-broadband, I fear most of the Loroi know each other already pretty well.
There's only the one male who's the big unknown...

The girls are about to find out how different Human males react to such situations than male Loroi would.
At least what they expect the male Lorois reaction to be.
(It seems to me their perception of how males react is pretty biased, due to a lack of access to get to know males better than just for procreation.)
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Krulle wrote:Due to Sanzai-information-broadband, I fear most of the Loroi know each other already pretty well.
There's only the one male who's the big unknown...

The girls are about to find out how different Human males react to such situations than male Loroi would.
At least what they expect the male Lorois reaction to be.
(It seems to me their perception of how males react is pretty biased, due to a lack of access to get to know males better than just for procreation.)
Frankly they kept him in a cage for most of the trip they can't do that now so how to treat him is going to be an issue.

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CrimsonFALKE wrote:Frankly they kept him in a cage for most of the trip they can't do that now so how to treat him is going to be an issue.
There's always the cargo hold...
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Or the air lock.
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GeoModder wrote:
CrimsonFALKE wrote:Frankly they kept him in a cage for most of the trip they can't do that now so how to treat him is going to be an issue.
There's always the cargo hold...

I don't think that they can risk letting him out of their sight this time and he doesn't have space suit.

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Krulle wrote:Or the air lock.
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Not to send him out, just to store it...
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I think paranoia may become their greatest adversary: the Loroi are trapped in a close space inside a ship playing dead, forced to wait and hope the Umiak don't find them before their allies, and in the company of a weird almost Loroi-looking alien immune to sanzai and for what they know could still be a Shell trick.
Nowhere as bad as The Thing, but still bad.

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raistlin34 wrote:I think paranoia may become their greatest adversary: the Loroi are trapped in a close space inside a ship playing dead, forced to wait and hope the Umiak don't find them before their allies, and in the company of a weird almost Loroi-looking alien immune to sanzai and for what they know could still be a Shell trick.
Nowhere as bad as The Thing, but still bad.
Speaking of which, how would the Loroi handle something like the Alien situation. I assume far more easily, insofar as they are telepathic and militaristic.

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boldilocks wrote:
raistlin34 wrote:I think paranoia may become their greatest adversary: the Loroi are trapped in a close space inside a ship playing dead, forced to wait and hope the Umiak don't find them before their allies, and in the company of a weird almost Loroi-looking alien immune to sanzai and for what they know could still be a Shell trick.
Nowhere as bad as The Thing, but still bad.

Hope they can't make a flame thrower

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No need. Fireblade has 14 levels in Pyrokinesis.

I wonder if some Predator somewhere has a Loroi skull as trophy.

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Werra wrote:No need. Fireblade has 14 levels in Pyrokinesis.

I wonder if some Predator somewhere has a Loroi skull as trophy.
that would be awesome to see a half naked Loroi covered in mud fighting the Predator would be awesome!

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boldilocks wrote:Speaking of which, how would the Loroi handle something like the Alien situation. I assume far more easily, insofar as they are telepathic and militaristic.
I agree, it would probably not turn into much of a "situation" with the loroi being telepathic, able to exchange thoughts with each other telepathically and also being able to sense minds or presences of other life forms nearby. I speculate that an Alien larva could infect an overly curious loroi, but that after that the parasite would be either quickly discovered and removed, or the affected loroi vaporized. A mature Alien could maybe get the jump on one or two loroi, but after that the animal's disposition would be clear to everyone and every loroi in range should be able to sense it's presence and take measures.
CrimsonFALKE wrote:that would be awesome to see a half naked Loroi covered in mud fighting the Predator would be awesome!
Not sure what's so awesome about a half naked woman getting beaten to death and dismembered by a guy that's twice her height and I'm guessing 3-4 times her strength. If that woman is your average Loroi, the Predator would wipe the floor with her, hard. If she's a Teidar, it would be over just as quickly for the Predator because she'd just telekinetically roll him into a ball of meat. A Mizol wouldn't get into a fistfight in the first place. Being able to sense the presence of lifeforms, she could evade the Predator and mentally stab him when the time is right, if the Predator doesn't simply shoot her in the face first.

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entity2636 wrote:
boldilocks wrote:Speaking of which, how would the Loroi handle something like the Alien situation. I assume far more easily, insofar as they are telepathic and militaristic.
I agree, it would probably not turn into much of a "situation" with the loroi being telepathic, able to exchange thoughts with each other telepathically and also being able to sense minds or presences of other life forms nearby. I speculate that an Alien larva could infect an overly curious loroi, but that after that the parasite would be either quickly discovered and removed, or the affected loroi vaporized. A mature Alien could maybe get the jump on one or two loroi, but after that the animal's disposition would be clear to everyone and every loroi in range should be able to sense it's presence and take measures.
CrimsonFALKE wrote:that would be awesome to see a half naked Loroi covered in mud fighting the Predator would be awesome!
Not sure what's so awesome about a half naked woman getting beaten to death and dismembered by a guy that's twice her height and I'm guessing 3-4 times her strength. If that woman is your average Loroi, the Predator would wipe the floor with her, hard. If she's a Teidar, it would be over just as quickly for the Predator because she'd just telekinetically roll him into a ball of meat. A Mizol wouldn't get into a fistfight in the first place. Being able to sense the presence of lifeforms, she could evade the Predator and mentally stab him when the time is right, if the Predator doesn't simply shoot her in the face first.
There is some precedent set that the xenomorphs use host DNA/equivalent as a scaffold for their forms and function, so if a few Loroi were infected and the chestbursters got away, they might be just as telepathic and/or telekinetic as their hosts had been. And isn't it strongly implied, at least in Aliens, that the xenomorphs have their own telepathic link, too?

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entity2636 wrote:
boldilocks wrote:Speaking of which, how would the Loroi handle something like the Alien situation. I assume far more easily, insofar as they are telepathic and militaristic.
I agree, it would probably not turn into much of a "situation" with the loroi being telepathic, able to exchange thoughts with each other telepathically and also being able to sense minds or presences of other life forms nearby. I speculate that an Alien larva could infect an overly curious loroi, but that after that the parasite would be either quickly discovered and removed, or the affected loroi vaporized. A mature Alien could maybe get the jump on one or two loroi, but after that the animal's disposition would be clear to everyone and every loroi in range should be able to sense it's presence and take measures.
CrimsonFALKE wrote:that would be awesome to see a half naked Loroi covered in mud fighting the Predator would be awesome!
Not sure what's so awesome about a half naked woman getting beaten to death and dismembered by a guy that's twice her height and I'm guessing 3-4 times her strength. If that woman is your average Loroi, the Predator would wipe the floor with her, hard. If she's a Teidar, it would be over just as quickly for the Predator because she'd just telekinetically roll him into a ball of meat. A Mizol wouldn't get into a fistfight in the first place. Being able to sense the presence of lifeforms, she could evade the Predator and mentally stab him when the time is right, if the Predator doesn't simply shoot her in the face first.

The only set back to the Alien issue with the Loroi.. would be if their minds are too 'alien' as to not be easily noticeable by a Loroi telepathic sweep... kind of like how the Colonial Marines were perplexed when the Aliens did not show up on thermal optics.. and their motion detectors were not meant for an enemy that can and does move in 3 dimensions. The Aliens are semi insect-like their minds may not register like Loroi are used to experiencing with individual minds...which the aliens might not be. I'm sure the Aliens do have minds they are too smart and cunning to not be.. but they might be unrecognized at first for what they are depending upon the individual Loroi until they are use to them. Plus, I'm certain no Loroi would allow themselves to be used as a walking womb for some hostile lethal xenomorph they would quite reasonably kill themselves to protect their sisters from harm.. their society's self-sacrifice ethic is stronger than that.

As for a Predator combatant.. yeah most loroi would not be caught off guard by their visual masking they can detect their minds.. unless of course some mental masking alien techniques are involved. But yes as Arioch has described Loroi they are not particularly stronger than human women of similar build and physique...and to the Loroi the muscle-bound Heracles like Arnold and other human male body builders is totally unknown among the Loroi male population. We have already seen that even a human male of truly Doc Savage proportions does not stand up to a Predator in hand to hand combat..they are just to big and strong ... so a typical Loroi Sorin footsoldier would get creamed in a hand to hand fight... barring Loroi cunning and possible combat precognitive advantages. But a Teidar...well THAT's another story. If the Teidar learned quickly enough that the shoulder mounted cannon the predator typically all have was independantly targetable and needed to be neutralized first...yeah.. telekinesis for the win! Though Predators are some sneaky bitches with their remote auto targeting thrown/ranged weaponry and dart & net launchers... the Teider would have to be careful not to be caught off guard by those .. a PK shield might not be enough to block some of those lethal semi-autonomous weapons.
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sunphoenix wrote:no Loroi would allow themselves to be used as a walking womb for some hostile lethal xenomorph
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