They were not "excessive corporeal punishment for women". They were "excessive corporeal punishments" (by modern standards.), usually for witchcraft or heresy. (At least in the european middle ages.)entity2636 wrote:I admit that these two last examples of punishment are not directly relevant for not serving the husband, rather I listed them as general forms of excessive corporeal punishment for women for what we see now as benign and unimportant things.
Where are you getting this from? There were plenty of educated women in the european middle ages. The education of children in their early years was usually left to their mothers (at least in the wealthier families where education was both an option and expected.) The women who ended up in cloisters were in effect brought into an existence of theological and philosophical (and quite a lot of political) learning.entity2636 wrote:I wrote that one late, tired and in a hurry and in retrospect it could be seen as incorrect examples. One would be labeled a witch if a woman was self educated in sciences deemed heretical by the church, practiced traditional medicine, was unmarried, had an unpleasant character or was a pain in the @ss of someone important, etc.
Even your statement in regards to witches indicates an extremely gendered view of witches. Both men and women were burned at the stake for being witches, which makes it a non-gendered punishment.
Yeah, probably best to let it drop here, and I too will raise my call that the only way to solve this vendetta between me and you is MOAR CONTENT. Otherwise, we might end up burning eachother at the stake. Could Arioch live with that on his conscience?entity2636 wrote:But Corpsman, Username and Arioch are right, this has derailed far enough and I will stop it right here.
@Arioch - best way of pulling the attention away from derailing a thread is to drop something fresh for the readers to take apart, like a new teaser frame of the next page Got anything new and shiny for us, or shall we wait until Monday (hopefully) for the next page?