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Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:57 pm
by Jakelope13
Does the map of the Steppes region show systems that have no planets, or no planets that can be easily colonized?

Also, do the Loroi have flag bridges, or a secondary bridge? Or is it just that the command deck is large enough for everybody to fit in?

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:21 pm
by Arioch
Beliskner wrote:I wonder how much umiak and loroi know about our and neighborhood galaxies. Considering our progress nowdays can we assume that humans in 2156 have formidable knowledge about galaxy(star systems patterns, laws and phenomenons) ?
I think that goes without saying. I expect that the problems of dark matter and dark energy will be figured out by then, but I don't think the answers to either of those large-scale questions will greatly affect the relatively small-scale space travel in Outsider. As for neighboring galaxies, the major combatants are not much closer to "touching" them than we are now.
Beliskner wrote:Does the map of the Steppes region show systems that have no planets, or no planets that can be easily colonized?
The Steppes map in the Insider is just a translated version of the Loroi map on page 59, which presumably is specific to Loroi planning and operations. It show important systems, but it's not a comprehensive atlas of stars in the region.
Beliskner wrote:Also, do the Loroi have flag bridges, or a secondary bridge? Or is it just that the command deck is large enough for everybody to fit in?
Most command ships have flag facilities, but many group-level or squadron-level flag officers are also formally the captains of their ships, and so the command is not separated. If the Tempest had a separate flag staff on board, they would use the balcony offices at the rear of the bridge (19 & 20 here).

Sector or Fleet flagships will have a separate flag staff and a separate flag bridge.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:24 am
by saint of m
Have either of the main sides of this war tried sending in probes through enemy territory, and what is the likelihood of success?

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:32 am
by Arioch
saint of m wrote:Have either of the main sides of this war tried sending in probes through enemy territory, and what is the likelihood of success?
Jump drive requires significant power (the powerplant of a ~75m class ship), so an instellar 'probe' is better known as a scout; it's an expensive piece of hardware that most likely requires a crew. Jump drive only works between adjacent systems, so there's no easy way to bypass the enemy's front lines to get to their interior territory; the enemy would devote significant effort to destroying the scout before it penetrated the interior. That's because if you could get scouts into the enemy interior, you could do a lot worse than explore: you could just bomb their planets into oblivion and the war would be over.

Compounding the problem even further is that since there's no FTL radio, the scout not only has to get past the enemy's front line once to get into enemy territory; it has to do it a second time to return home to report what it found.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:49 am
by saint of m
Arioch wrote:
saint of m wrote:Have either of the main sides of this war tried sending in probes through enemy territory, and what is the likelihood of success?
Jump drive requires significant power (the powerplant of a ~75m class ship), so an instellar 'probe' is better known as a scout; it's an expensive piece of hardware that most likely requires a crew. Jump drive only works between adjacent systems, so there's no easy way to bypass the enemy's front lines to get to their interior territory; the enemy would devote significant effort to destroying the scout before it penetrated the interior. That's because if you could get scouts into the enemy interior, you could do a lot worse than explore: you could just bomb their planets into oblivion and the war would be over.

Compounding the problem even further is that since there's no FTL radio, the scout not only has to get past the enemy's front line once to get into enemy territory; it has to do it a second time to return home to report what it found.
So the first part of this is: Neither side is that desperate to try it.

As for the second, could it not send a smaller capsal through jump space at a predetermined location with the necessary info, or would power would be an issue again?

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:16 am
by fredgiblet
Said capsule would still need to be an entire jump-capable ship in it's own right as I understand the FTL physics. Leaving you with the same problem. It would also still need to get back through hostile space that is alerted by the scout going through.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:29 pm
by cacambo43
So.. looking at Chapter 2 again, and I have to ask. They've kept humaniti's top (ok, only) diplomat in an unfurnished cell for over a week? Are there really no spare acommodations, or at least a cot they could throw in?

CJSF

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:42 pm
by fredgiblet
Well he may be a diplomat, but he's on a warship in a warzone, sparse accommodations and restricted movements are reasonable, though THAT sparse is likely an intentional slight. It's likely that there's no available rooms that can be locked from the outside.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:18 pm
by GeoModder
fredgiblet wrote:Well he may be a diplomat, but he's on a warship in a warzone, sparse accommodations and restricted movements are reasonable, though THAT sparse is likely an intentional slight. It's likely that there's no available rooms that can be locked from the outside.
Who needs locks when there are Teidars onboard capable of keeping the door closed at will? :geek:
't Would of course be a waste of resources. ;)

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:02 pm
by cacambo43
OK, not even a spare CHAIR? ;)

CJSF

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:09 pm
by GeoModder
Serving an alien male??? :shock:

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:04 pm
by Arioch
cacambo43 wrote:So.. looking at Chapter 2 again, and I have to ask. They've kept humaniti's top (ok, only) diplomat in an unfurnished cell for over a week? Are there really no spare acommodations, or at least a cot they could throw in?
I'll get into it more in the next few pages, but Alex was put in the brig and was denied visitors who clearly (if Beryl is to be believed) wanted to see him. This was not an oversight.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:41 am
by fredgiblet
Arioch wrote:I'll get into it more in the next few pages, but Alex was put in the brig and was denied visitors who clearly (if Beryl is to be believed) wanted to see him. This was not an oversight.
Hmmmm...What exactly did they want see him for?

:twisted:

Harem anime incoming!

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:34 am
by GeoModder
Arioch wrote:This was not an oversight.
Beryl: "The commander wanted to eliminate you under the preliminary warning act of the Imperial non-Neutral Policy resolution."

Alex: "..."

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:04 am
by wasp609
so why exactly are the loroi so xenophobic any way they're like us but on crack in that departent. side question do the loroi even have illegal drugs in their society.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:58 pm
by Arioch
wasp609 wrote:so why exactly are the loroi so xenophobic any way they're like us but on crack in that departent. side question do the loroi even have illegal drugs in their society.
The Loroi have a closed, militaristic society, which is heavily dependent on telepathy. Outsiders are problematic for such a society.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:31 am
by wasp609
and what about the illegal drugs im just a little curious here.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:13 am
by Arioch
wasp609 wrote:and what about the illegal drugs im just a little curious here.
Most intoxicating drugs are illegal in Loroi society, because when telepathic and telekinetic individuals become intoxicated, they are a danger to themselves and others. Instead, Loroi use sedatives which quiet them down or knock them out.

In any society, there are individuals who will break the law. However, since the Loroi are governed by a military dictatorship, and since the warriors who administrate the system are prohibited by law from engaging in commerce (and so bribes are of limited value), being an illegal drug trafficker or drug user would be a very dangerous lifestyle choice. In most cases, a convicted drug dealer or a warrior caught intoxicated while on duty would be put to death.

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:02 pm
by Alexandr Koori
If one loroi (Beryl for example) sleep and see a dream, does can another (Fireblade, for example, or anybody from her caste) see what in dreams of first? And how loroi control emotions in a dream? (If Firablade see nightmare she can make many troubles in moment of awake )

Re: Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:04 pm
by fredgiblet
If you check Fireblade's character sheet you'll see that she has "'talk's' in her sleep" as a quirk. I assume that controlling your telepathy while sleeping is something that kids learn early on, but there will always be people who can't quite manage it. I imagine sedatives are probably popular among those who can't control their dreams to prevent broadcasting them to the whole ship/barracks/town.