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Re: How to Draw Outsider Characters
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:13 am
by avatar576
@Arioch: Do you use stock images for the starfields and other space backdrops, or do you illustrate them yourself? If so, how do you do it?
Re: How to Draw Outsider Characters
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:36 am
by Arioch
avatar576 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:13 am
@Arioch: Do you use stock images for the starfields and other space backdrops, or do you illustrate them yourself? If so, how do you do it?
I used some stock images for the Prologue cover and the first few pages, but the subsequent ones (including the Naam proplyd background) I created myself. Nebulae are painted by hand, and starfields are created procedurally using some Photoshop techniques.
The starfield technique I use is one I learned from a tutorial posted by Greg Martin. It's no longer up on his site, but I have an archived local copy of it. In order to view it, you have to download the file and open it locally using a Microsoft browser.
https://well-of-souls.com/temp/artofgre ... torial.mht
There are probably many tutorials online that use a similar process. Basically, you create Gaussian Noise on a black field, then do several passes of tweaking contrast and levels to vary and enlarge the stars. Then you manually darken and lighten parts of the image to make it less random.
Re: How to Draw Outsider Characters
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:47 pm
by Keklas Rekobah
@ARIOCH: The original tutorial file was saved with IE8. I was able to extract and save the entire file (with images) in PDF. Does this violate Greg Martin's copyright?
Re: How to Draw Outsider Characters
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:05 pm
by Arioch
Keklas Rekobah wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:47 pm
@ARIOCH: The original tutorial file was saved with IE8. I was able to extract and save the entire file (with images) in PDF. Does this violate Greg Martin's copyright?
It was a free and publicly available tutorial on the web, so I don't think saving it in different formats violates any laws.
Re: How to Draw Outsider Characters
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:08 pm
by Keklas Rekobah
Arioch wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:05 pm
Keklas Rekobah wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:47 pm
@ARIOCH: The original tutorial file was saved with IE8. I was able to extract and save the entire file (with images) in PDF. Does this violate Greg Martin's copyright?
It was a free and publicly available tutorial on the web, so I don't think saving it in different formats violates any laws.
In that case, do you need a copy?
Re: How to Draw Outsider Characters
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:12 pm
by Arioch
Keklas Rekobah wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:08 pm
Arioch wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:05 pm
Keklas Rekobah wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:47 pm
@ARIOCH: The original tutorial file was saved with IE8. I was able to extract and save the entire file (with images) in PDF. Does this violate Greg Martin's copyright?
It was a free and publicly available tutorial on the web, so I don't think saving it in different formats violates any laws.
In that case, do you need a copy?
No, the one I have works fine.
Re: How to Draw Outsider Characters
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:15 am
by avatar576
Arioch wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:36 am
avatar576 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:13 am
@Arioch: Do you use stock images for the starfields and other space backdrops, or do you illustrate them yourself? If so, how do you do it?
I used some stock images for the Prologue cover and the first few pages, but the subsequent ones (including the Naam proplyd background) I created myself. Nebulae are painted by hand, and starfields are created procedurally using some Photoshop techniques.
The starfield technique I use is one I learned from a tutorial posted by Greg Martin. It's no longer up on his site, but I have an archived local copy of it. In order to view it, you have to download the file and open it locally using a Microsoft browser.
https://well-of-souls.com/temp/artofgre ... torial.mht
There are probably many tutorials online that use a similar process. Basically, you create Gaussian Noise on a black field, then do several passes of tweaking contrast and levels to vary and enlarge the stars. Then you manually darken and lighten parts of the image to make it less random.
Cool, I've always wondered how that was done. Thanks!
Re: How to Draw Outsider Characters
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2022 1:21 am
by Demarquis
Like watching how ice cream is made.
Re: How to Draw Outsider Characters
Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 3:22 pm
by DevilDalek
Keklas Rekobah wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:08 pm
Arioch wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:05 pm
Keklas Rekobah wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:47 pm
@ARIOCH: The original tutorial file was saved with IE8. I was able to extract and save the entire file (with images) in PDF. Does this violate Greg Martin's copyright?
It was a free and publicly available tutorial on the web, so I don't think saving it in different formats violates any laws.
In that case, do you need a copy?
*Puts hand up*
Can anyone else have a copy?
Re: How to Draw Outsider Characters
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:31 am
by DevilDalek
Still no on the planet creator thing?
Re: How to Draw Outsider Characters
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 5:44 pm
by Arioch
DevilDalek wrote: ↑Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:31 am
Still no on the planet creator thing?
?
Re: How to Draw Outsider Characters
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 7:25 pm
by DevilDalek
This is what I was on about!
DevilDalek wrote: ↑Thu May 12, 2022 3:22 pm
Keklas Rekobah wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:08 pm
Arioch wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:05 pm
It was a free and publicly available tutorial on the web, so I don't think saving it in different formats violates any laws.
In that case, do you need a copy?
*Puts hand up*
Can anyone else have a copy?
Re: How to Draw Outsider Characters
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 7:29 pm
by Keklas Rekobah
Let me make sure I still have it, then we can set up an email drop.
Re: How to Draw Outsider Characters
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 7:51 pm
by DevilDalek
Good stuff!
Re: How to Draw Outsider Characters
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 8:34 am
by DevilDalek
Yeah, sorry, way back when I was attempting my Well of Souls fan comic, I found I completely sucked at doing space backgrounds.
Re: How to Draw Outsider Characters
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 2:56 pm
by DevilDalek
You get a very interesting effect if you tonal shift the picture so the loroi have normal human skin tones..
Re: How to Draw Outsider Characters
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:52 pm
by Keklas Rekobah
↑ Half-elves and a goblinoid precursor?
Re: How to Draw Outsider Characters
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 8:14 pm
by DevilDalek
Yup!
I'm blue daba dee daba doo..