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But here in the Outsiderverse we will presumably have a huge pile of dead bugs, a financially ruined Loroi society (Britain after WW2 anyone?), a scarred Humanity, and some pretty unscarred Historians. And some other supporting actors on the scene (Barsam etc). The Loroi will be more likely to be t...

Yes or no?

At least we have more fun than those who believe and obey. :mrgreen: Yes and i hear the sunsets at the loony bin is quite lovely this time of the year :). Do you understand the meaning of "pattern"? Yes do you? If you do please remember to motivate your answer since you've had a very poor record of...

Oh great a conspiracy theorist. At least we have more fun than those who believe and obey. :mrgreen: No, the pattern is the same. Yes the pattern is conflict but the combatants are different. Motivations are different. the way they fight is different. you can't make broad generalisations like that ...

It will go down the sink. In the short or in the long run. There´s enough potential for friction. Just like there was plenty of potential for friction between the US and Japan after WW2 and how that boiled over...oh wait. OK, so there was plenty of room for friction between the US and Germany after...

First: I don't know if you know something i don't know about the plot. But what make's you assume that humans will escape unscathed. I wasn´t talking about Humanity... Second: You argue against me for using earths history as a model of reasoning through your arguments (which is no easy task) but in...

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Chocolate.

Now and in the next few decades, yes. But later, when we overtake them in tech? I don't think you understand what I meant. I meant that trying to get us to fight hot blue space elves, particularly once we've got a degree of integration of our societies, isn't going to be easy. If the Loroi aren't s...

First of all: Life is no fairytail but outsider is. O_o, pitfall-alarm! Second of all: You mean the aftermath is two massive political blocks of power will stop talking to eachother and scare the bystanders with the prospect of nuclear war before the other collapses because of political and economi...

Yes, their cannonfodder for the next war, if either Humans or Loroi are playing stoopid. What war? Are you certain that humanity and the loroi will go to war? Pretty much, yes. Life is no fairy tale. If we have survived the war with the umiak together then why would we feel the need to fight one an...

No, the Historians would prevent that. We will become too much of an asset to them. Uhm... :? are you certain we want to be an asset to them What is the alternative? (do we even know what kind of asset we could be?)? Yes, their cannonfodder for the next war, if either Humans or Loroi are playing st...

After a pyrrhic Loroi victory they will have given us enough tech to be on par with Loroi, so that they don´t have to fear a Loroi aggression to them. Betting on us AGAINST hot blue space elves is a bad idea. Now and in the next few decades, yes. But later, when we overtake them in tech? We'd much ...

Given that if the Loroi do choose to purge humanity, they will go to great lengths to prevent anyone else finding out about the human Lotai No purging. The cat is already out of the bag for this one, since the Barsam and the Historians know about us. So what? An Alliance has not yet been formed. If...

If I remember right, the Vlad didn't like turkish people and staked only those, but his efforts on war were so effective that Ottomans were ready to make peace and leave anytime they heard his name. Yes, and he didn´t liked the germans, too. Or at least the thugs from the german trade-guilds, becau...

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We have Lotai, they don't. But only one human and zero Umiak knows this and the Loroi can control who that one human ever gets to talk to. For now. But there will be more. Given that if the Loroi do choose to purge humanity, they will go to great lengths to prevent anyone else finding out about the...

The British Empire is already dead, and the Loroi have already had two massive blows to their military might. You used future tense, I think that past tense would work and be guaranteed accurate. Ah, this. No, i said "late Victorian society", and by that i meant England at the dawn of WW2. Sorry fo...

Well, there were even good officers. E.g. google "Laconia-incident", but be prepared, you will read about good germans and ugly americans. Not quite what fits into that what´s "official history" today... I know of the Laconia. The problem is that there were people like Klaus Barbie on our side and ...

Wouldn´t bet on that one, at least not for the lower ranked soldiers aka the german version of Joe Sixpack. We were not talking about "Schütze Arsch" here, I think... Well, there were even good officers. E.g. google "Laconia-incident", but be prepared, you will read about good germans and ugly amer...

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Well, there were a*****s on allied side, too.

It was war. There have been a.....s on both sides. But more on ours, thats a fact.

Wouldn´t bet on that one, at least not for the lower ranked soldiers aka the german version of Joe Sixpack.
For upper Nazis, yes, they´re assholes by definition.